1 00:00:24,909 --> 00:00:19,380 [Music] 2 00:00:28,530 --> 00:00:24,919 you're in the para cast the gold 3 00:00:35,410 --> 00:00:28,540 standard of paranormal radio and now 4 00:00:38,799 --> 00:00:35,420 here's gene Steinberg with gene and 5 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:38,809 Chris we're gonna have a really wild and 6 00:00:42,069 --> 00:00:40,610 wooly show today a little bit later 7 00:00:44,410 --> 00:00:42,079 we'll be hearing from our old friend 8 00:00:48,279 --> 00:00:44,420 Brad stager now those of you have been 9 00:00:49,450 --> 00:00:48,289 listening to the podcast since 2006 has 10 00:00:52,809 --> 00:00:49,460 it been that long 11 00:00:55,509 --> 00:00:52,819 we'll remember that our first show 12 00:00:56,229 --> 00:00:55,519 included two people Jim Mosely who's no 13 00:00:58,959 --> 00:00:56,239 longer with us 14 00:01:00,910 --> 00:00:58,969 and Brad Steiger who is and is still 15 00:01:03,189 --> 00:01:00,920 coming out with all sorts of great books 16 00:01:05,110 --> 00:01:03,199 we'll talk about his latest book in a 17 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:05,120 few moments I get on a few other 18 00:01:12,250 --> 00:01:08,570 subjects here now last week we mentioned 19 00:01:14,950 --> 00:01:12,260 the fact that art belt tried to do a 20 00:01:17,860 --> 00:01:14,960 comeback that didn't go along very well 21 00:01:20,470 --> 00:01:17,870 and after a few weeks II stopped doing a 22 00:01:22,390 --> 00:01:20,480 show for Sirius XM and we made a few 23 00:01:24,670 --> 00:01:22,400 comments I think one of the most 24 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:24,680 important issues being the fact that the 25 00:01:29,470 --> 00:01:26,930 name of the show art bells dark matter 26 00:01:31,780 --> 00:01:29,480 conflicted with Don Ecker show dark 27 00:01:33,790 --> 00:01:31,790 matters and of course art bill knows Don 28 00:01:35,950 --> 00:01:33,800 Ecker so we wondered about that we also 29 00:01:37,870 --> 00:01:35,960 brought out the fact that you know when 30 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:37,880 you try to come back you know people in 31 00:01:42,070 --> 00:01:40,010 show business try to make a comeback it 32 00:01:43,990 --> 00:01:42,080 doesn't always work especially if you 33 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:44,000 try to do the same old thing and not 34 00:01:48,670 --> 00:01:46,010 adapt to the times come up with a new 35 00:01:51,940 --> 00:01:48,680 guys if you get the picture well we got 36 00:01:54,820 --> 00:01:51,950 an email from somebody who I guess is an 37 00:01:57,340 --> 00:01:54,830 art bell fan and that particular person 38 00:01:59,950 --> 00:01:57,350 said they will never ever listen to the 39 00:02:02,500 --> 00:01:59,960 para cast again because of the way we 40 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:02,510 attacked art Bell now Chris did we 41 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:04,130 attack art Bell I don't think so 42 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:06,530 no we just pointed out the obvious I 43 00:02:11,649 --> 00:02:08,690 thought what you can't be all things to 44 00:02:13,780 --> 00:02:11,659 all people Jane yeah I mean good or bad 45 00:02:15,610 --> 00:02:13,790 what could you do anyway we had a really 46 00:02:17,980 --> 00:02:15,620 fascinating discussion last week which 47 00:02:21,340 --> 00:02:17,990 has garnered a lot of comment with the 48 00:02:22,660 --> 00:02:21,350 crop circle pioneer were originator of 49 00:02:25,390 --> 00:02:22,670 the research 50 00:02:27,309 --> 00:02:25,400 and that of course is Colin Andrews now 51 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:27,319 he had told us for at the beginning of 52 00:02:31,300 --> 00:02:29,330 the show something that's in the part of 53 00:02:35,229 --> 00:02:31,310 his book the introduction where he 54 00:02:38,860 --> 00:02:35,239 honors the late reg Presley a 1960s 55 00:02:41,290 --> 00:02:38,870 early punk rock star from the trogs of 56 00:02:44,860 --> 00:02:41,300 course his famous record was wild thing 57 00:02:47,050 --> 00:02:44,870 now I looked online I just happen to 58 00:02:50,140 --> 00:02:47,060 catch some information about reg Presley 59 00:02:53,559 --> 00:02:50,150 did you know Chris O'Brien that he wrote 60 00:02:56,830 --> 00:02:53,569 a book about the unknown and crop 61 00:02:58,900 --> 00:02:56,840 circles hmm it kind of faintly rings a 62 00:03:00,430 --> 00:02:58,910 bell and I'm not familiar with I haven't 63 00:03:03,580 --> 00:03:00,440 read it if that's what you're asking 64 00:03:06,100 --> 00:03:03,590 well the book is called wild things they 65 00:03:07,539 --> 00:03:06,110 don't tell us and it's available in a 66 00:03:09,789 --> 00:03:07,549 Kindle edition I mean if you want a 67 00:03:12,370 --> 00:03:09,799 hardcover or paperback edition they're 68 00:03:14,890 --> 00:03:12,380 selling it from $20 to one hundred fifty 69 00:03:18,100 --> 00:03:14,900 eight dollars so I wouldn't suggest it 70 00:03:20,530 --> 00:03:18,110 and unfortunately reg Presley isn't 71 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:20,540 around to talk to him about it I think 72 00:03:25,300 --> 00:03:22,850 it would have been fun to have a signed 73 00:03:27,430 --> 00:03:25,310 copies are going for a pretty penny well 74 00:03:29,170 --> 00:03:27,440 yeah I would expect you know he's not 75 00:03:30,750 --> 00:03:29,180 the only show business person who has 76 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:30,760 written books about the paranormal 77 00:03:37,870 --> 00:03:34,970 Richard Belzer late of the wine order 78 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:37,880 SVU show he recently left it he's a 79 00:03:43,599 --> 00:03:40,850 comedian and actor he has written some 80 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:43,609 books on conspiracy theories and I'd 81 00:03:47,650 --> 00:03:45,170 like to get him on the show maybe now 82 00:03:50,020 --> 00:03:47,660 that he's not doing that TV show a lot 83 00:03:51,849 --> 00:03:50,030 sighs I tried to get him I contacted his 84 00:03:54,940 --> 00:03:51,859 publicist and never heard back from them 85 00:03:56,380 --> 00:03:54,950 so let's try again I think it might be 86 00:04:00,250 --> 00:03:56,390 worth I mean you must be looking for a 87 00:04:02,199 --> 00:04:00,260 job now yeah he probably is now one 88 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:02,209 other good thing about crop circles we 89 00:04:08,500 --> 00:04:05,690 heard just a few days ago from someone 90 00:04:13,090 --> 00:04:08,510 named Matthew Williams who's one of the 91 00:04:14,770 --> 00:04:13,100 artists who creates crop circles yes and 92 00:04:16,840 --> 00:04:14,780 that got busted for trying to do one 93 00:04:18,099 --> 00:04:16,850 actually uh-huh well he wants to be on 94 00:04:21,219 --> 00:04:18,109 the show and we hope to have him on next 95 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:21,229 week yeah that'll be fun I I kind of 96 00:04:27,219 --> 00:04:24,050 meant was not surprised that some of our 97 00:04:30,070 --> 00:04:27,229 listeners really took Colin and used to 98 00:04:34,210 --> 00:04:30,080 task or what they perceived as his 99 00:04:36,709 --> 00:04:34,220 new-age bent on the subject and I can 100 00:04:38,329 --> 00:04:36,719 understand why some people who are 101 00:04:42,559 --> 00:04:38,339 would like to think that they're firmly 102 00:04:44,749 --> 00:04:42,569 grounded in the scientific angle that 103 00:04:47,899 --> 00:04:44,759 they would not be happy with some of his 104 00:04:51,379 --> 00:04:47,909 talk about you know this kind of 105 00:04:53,539 --> 00:04:51,389 catch-all term energy and trying to 106 00:04:56,449 --> 00:04:53,549 equate consciousness with crop circles 107 00:04:59,989 --> 00:04:56,459 and trying to equate the agenda behind 108 00:05:02,779 --> 00:04:59,999 the patterns as being important working 109 00:05:05,059 --> 00:05:02,789 through the actual hoaxers and I was 110 00:05:08,299 --> 00:05:05,069 very fascinated by that particular line 111 00:05:09,799 --> 00:05:08,309 of thinking and but it wasn't it didn't 112 00:05:11,719 --> 00:05:09,809 come as a surprise that other people 113 00:05:15,109 --> 00:05:11,729 didn't share my fascination with that I 114 00:05:18,619 --> 00:05:15,119 I do think personally that that is an 115 00:05:22,339 --> 00:05:18,629 area of inquiry and study that deserves 116 00:05:23,959 --> 00:05:22,349 at least some attention I disagree that 117 00:05:27,079 --> 00:05:23,969 we should just totally disregard that 118 00:05:29,929 --> 00:05:27,089 particular angle of inquiry you know I 119 00:05:32,629 --> 00:05:29,939 do understand why people would react a 120 00:05:35,539 --> 00:05:32,639 little bit negatively towards his his 121 00:05:37,539 --> 00:05:35,549 particular take on that but I thought it 122 00:05:39,469 --> 00:05:37,549 was I thought it was a good episode and 123 00:05:42,529 --> 00:05:39,479 you know it was a pleasure to have him 124 00:05:45,079 --> 00:05:42,539 on board he's both an easy and a 125 00:05:46,669 --> 00:05:45,089 difficult interview and the reason he's 126 00:05:47,569 --> 00:05:46,679 easy as you ask him a question he just 127 00:05:50,109 --> 00:05:47,579 gets on with it 128 00:05:53,419 --> 00:05:50,119 but the problem is here is that he 129 00:05:56,569 --> 00:05:53,429 speaks in run-on sentences and phrases 130 00:05:58,249 --> 00:05:56,579 and paragraphs and finding the place to 131 00:06:00,319 --> 00:05:58,259 say okay that's the end of the answer 132 00:06:02,419 --> 00:06:00,329 let's get to the next question is very 133 00:06:04,790 --> 00:06:02,429 difficult and of course if we try to 134 00:06:06,709 --> 00:06:04,800 interrupt him other than the break a 135 00:06:08,569 --> 00:06:06,719 segment people say Oh Gina is 136 00:06:10,069 --> 00:06:08,579 interrupting him why they let him speak 137 00:06:12,559 --> 00:06:10,079 well of course because this is a 138 00:06:15,169 --> 00:06:12,569 commercial radio show and we do have to 139 00:06:16,639 --> 00:06:15,179 break for our sponsors but it also makes 140 00:06:18,769 --> 00:06:16,649 it difficult to have a good 141 00:06:21,979 --> 00:06:18,779 back-and-forth because you ask him 142 00:06:25,489 --> 00:06:21,989 something in 14 words and there's 12,000 143 00:06:27,739 --> 00:06:25,499 words of response he was a fun guest I 144 00:06:29,529 --> 00:06:27,749 enjoy talking with him I think he's the 145 00:06:31,639 --> 00:06:29,539 kind of guy you want to meet in a pub 146 00:06:33,529 --> 00:06:31,649 hangout have a couple of beers I don't 147 00:06:37,909 --> 00:06:33,539 drink beer but you get the picture and 148 00:06:41,329 --> 00:06:37,919 just let him tell stories as our 149 00:06:42,919 --> 00:06:41,339 listeners have explained you know he's 150 00:06:44,239 --> 00:06:42,929 not a scientist yes he has an 151 00:06:47,239 --> 00:06:44,249 engineering background but he's not a 152 00:06:49,699 --> 00:06:47,249 scientist he's dealing with things that 153 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:49,709 are probably very very difficult to 154 00:06:53,129 --> 00:06:50,289 prove 155 00:06:55,019 --> 00:06:53,139 I mean we could just say okay all crop 156 00:06:58,260 --> 00:06:55,029 circles are done by these artists or 157 00:07:00,209 --> 00:06:58,270 perpetrating houses and it's not et 158 00:07:04,409 --> 00:07:00,219 which certainly is something that I 159 00:07:06,570 --> 00:07:04,419 would accept he says there is more to it 160 00:07:08,609 --> 00:07:06,580 than that the inspiration for those crop 161 00:07:10,260 --> 00:07:08,619 circles it doesn't matter he also said 162 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:10,270 something else in case you care about 163 00:07:17,129 --> 00:07:12,930 the trivia he was a technical adviser 164 00:07:20,879 --> 00:07:17,139 for this movie from M night Shyamalan 165 00:07:23,609 --> 00:07:20,889 the Indian director from Philadelphia 166 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:23,619 called signs you forgot to add word 167 00:07:32,309 --> 00:07:29,770 awful well I like a 1950 sci-fi movie 168 00:07:34,230 --> 00:07:32,319 yeah I don't think that really big I 169 00:07:37,889 --> 00:07:34,240 think was bad I was watching Phoenix and 170 00:07:39,540 --> 00:07:37,899 Mel Gibson no as I recall but the one 171 00:07:42,299 --> 00:07:39,550 the one thing I did like is when Mel 172 00:07:44,909 --> 00:07:42,309 Gibson comes back in the house and the 173 00:07:47,730 --> 00:07:44,919 kids in joaquin phoenix well adorned 174 00:07:50,909 --> 00:07:47,740 with tinfoil hats i thought that was a 175 00:07:53,609 --> 00:07:50,919 nice touch yes his career was so 176 00:07:55,230 --> 00:07:53,619 promising M night Shyamalan and not 177 00:07:57,420 --> 00:07:55,240 because I learned how to pronounce his 178 00:08:00,749 --> 00:07:57,430 name it's because he had some pretty 179 00:08:02,189 --> 00:08:00,759 good pictures like Sixth Sense with 180 00:08:04,409 --> 00:08:02,199 Bruce Willis which is probably one of 181 00:08:06,989 --> 00:08:04,419 the best Bruce Willis films ever other 182 00:08:09,449 --> 00:08:06,999 than of course his die hard stuff die 183 00:08:12,659 --> 00:08:09,459 hard with or whatever you call it in any 184 00:08:14,969 --> 00:08:12,669 case let's segue to another great 185 00:08:18,449 --> 00:08:14,979 storyteller and that storyteller is none 186 00:08:20,609 --> 00:08:18,459 other than Brad Steiger who went by 187 00:08:24,509 --> 00:08:20,619 himself and with his wife Sherry Hanson 188 00:08:27,389 --> 00:08:24,519 Steiger is offered dozens and dozens of 189 00:08:29,009 --> 00:08:27,399 books about the paranormal the last time 190 00:08:32,129 --> 00:08:29,019 he was on he was talking about more than 191 00:08:35,179 --> 00:08:32,139 160 I assume he's added 50 or so since 192 00:08:39,029 --> 00:08:35,189 then well I think he's up around 170 now 193 00:08:40,500 --> 00:08:39,039 okay and that's pretty good and these 194 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:40,510 books aren't you know torrent page 195 00:08:44,879 --> 00:08:42,490 things like this current book real 196 00:08:48,780 --> 00:08:44,889 encounters different dimensions and 197 00:08:51,809 --> 00:08:48,790 otherworldly beings is a large paperback 198 00:08:53,819 --> 00:08:51,819 of nearly 400 pages and the text is 199 00:08:54,990 --> 00:08:53,829 rather small this is the kind of book I 200 00:08:58,379 --> 00:08:55,000 think that you're gonna end up with 201 00:09:00,120 --> 00:08:58,389 Chris when they finally get to printing 202 00:09:02,579 --> 00:09:00,130 stalking the her this could be a very 203 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:02,589 thick book yeah it's gonna be about that 204 00:09:05,639 --> 00:09:03,610 same same 205 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:05,649 sighs if we we do the expanded width 206 00:09:11,730 --> 00:09:09,250 which I do like by the way his book has 207 00:09:14,759 --> 00:09:11,740 a nice format and I'm gonna suggest that 208 00:09:16,410 --> 00:09:14,769 the my publisher goes ahead and expands 209 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:16,420 the actual size of the book a little bit 210 00:09:20,850 --> 00:09:18,910 in terms of its width now we've got a 211 00:09:23,850 --> 00:09:20,860 lot of fascinating shows coming in the 212 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00:14:01,970 privacy lockdown calm we'd like to hear 311 00:14:06,519 --> 00:14:04,009 from you if you have a comment or 312 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:06,529 question about the para cast sent it to 313 00:14:13,629 --> 00:14:10,610 news at the para cast com that's news at 314 00:14:15,730 --> 00:14:13,639 the para cast calm and don't forget to 315 00:14:20,850 --> 00:14:15,740 visit our famous para cast community 316 00:14:24,850 --> 00:14:20,860 forums at forum dot the podcast.com 317 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:24,860 we're here back on the para cast and we 318 00:14:28,870 --> 00:14:27,050 are featuring someone who was one of our 319 00:14:31,090 --> 00:14:28,880 first guests on the show and it comes 320 00:14:32,889 --> 00:14:31,100 back every year or so to catch up and 321 00:14:34,809 --> 00:14:32,899 tell us what he's doing when he's on him 322 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:34,819 and in this particular case he's got a 323 00:14:38,740 --> 00:14:36,410 new book out that he wrote with his wife 324 00:14:41,259 --> 00:14:38,750 sherry Hanson Steiger Brad Stigers book 325 00:14:43,990 --> 00:14:41,269 is called real encounters different 326 00:14:45,579 --> 00:14:44,000 dimensions and otherworldly beings now 327 00:14:48,220 --> 00:14:45,589 some people say bribed an Almond 328 00:14:52,689 --> 00:14:48,230 otherworldly being in a frightening way 329 00:14:56,110 --> 00:14:52,699 oh no no no I think you are you have 330 00:15:00,100 --> 00:14:56,120 your senses and Sensibility in other 331 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:00,110 worlds but you my friend are very human 332 00:15:08,490 --> 00:15:04,370 in all the best definitions of what we 333 00:15:11,710 --> 00:15:08,500 are but we deal with ordinary people 334 00:15:13,689 --> 00:15:11,720 such as ourselves I mean that you know 335 00:15:16,139 --> 00:15:13,699 when it comes to it we are quite 336 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:16,149 ordinary we probably have extraordinary 337 00:15:22,740 --> 00:15:19,250 interests according to some people but 338 00:15:25,990 --> 00:15:22,750 we're dealing I think always with the 339 00:15:28,540 --> 00:15:26,000 opportunities sometimes or the 340 00:15:30,670 --> 00:15:28,550 frightening aspect for some people 341 00:15:33,060 --> 00:15:30,680 depending where you are who you are and 342 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:33,070 what you're about to all 343 00:15:40,030 --> 00:15:36,290 encounter the other the other that takes 344 00:15:42,790 --> 00:15:40,040 many many shapes and forms including 345 00:15:44,710 --> 00:15:42,800 sometimes human now when it comes to 346 00:15:47,830 --> 00:15:44,720 seeing the other or these strange beings 347 00:15:50,110 --> 00:15:47,840 is there a specific demographic of 348 00:15:52,030 --> 00:15:50,120 people who tend to see these things or 349 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:52,040 is it all over the place it's all over 350 00:15:58,780 --> 00:15:55,730 the place you may remember that I began 351 00:16:00,970 --> 00:15:58,790 and sherry and I have carried on this 352 00:16:04,510 --> 00:16:00,980 questionnaire that I put together way 353 00:16:08,650 --> 00:16:04,520 back in the 60s like 67 or so of people 354 00:16:11,770 --> 00:16:08,660 who have these experiences and now all 355 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:11,780 we've got from em I think nearly every 356 00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:13,730 country in the world I can't think of a 357 00:16:18,190 --> 00:16:15,110 fan because they keep adding new 358 00:16:21,610 --> 00:16:18,200 countries or changing names but we have 359 00:16:23,910 --> 00:16:21,620 right at 40,000 questionnaires at first 360 00:16:26,770 --> 00:16:23,920 you know you start out with certain 361 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:26,780 preconceptions and stereotypical 362 00:16:31,030 --> 00:16:29,330 impulses in your mind like when we 363 00:16:33,790 --> 00:16:31,040 started was they were all that you know 364 00:16:36,460 --> 00:16:33,800 the Irish they like to see leprechauns 365 00:16:38,350 --> 00:16:36,470 or the British they like to see ghosts 366 00:16:41,710 --> 00:16:38,360 and I'm saying like to see because of 367 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:41,720 the input and output we get and you have 368 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:43,730 stereotypes and you have stereotypes 369 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:46,490 about different religious aspects you 370 00:16:51,610 --> 00:16:49,010 know Catholics are more likely to see 371 00:16:54,420 --> 00:16:51,620 apparitions and Lutheran's are probably 372 00:16:57,370 --> 00:16:54,430 not and Jews are somewhere in between 373 00:16:59,800 --> 00:16:57,380 and you set out with all those and none 374 00:17:03,070 --> 00:16:59,810 of them prove out not none of them seen 375 00:17:06,579 --> 00:17:03,080 at all to hold their their stereotypes 376 00:17:08,860 --> 00:17:06,589 about the supernatural the paranormal 377 00:17:11,170 --> 00:17:08,870 that I have found and we have found in 378 00:17:13,360 --> 00:17:11,180 our research that it's all over the 379 00:17:16,180 --> 00:17:13,370 place it's all over the place and all 380 00:17:18,430 --> 00:17:16,190 age groups and so forth it's really been 381 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:18,440 fascinating you know to carry this my 382 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:22,250 case beginning in the 77 then I was into 383 00:17:28,090 --> 00:17:25,490 this when I was 11 years old and when I 384 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:28,100 had a near-death experience and that's a 385 00:17:34,930 --> 00:17:32,210 long time and in this book a lot of 386 00:17:38,350 --> 00:17:34,940 conclusions and whenever I say 387 00:17:41,290 --> 00:17:38,360 conclusion I say conclusion for now a 388 00:17:44,140 --> 00:17:41,300 temporary conclusion of what's going on 389 00:17:45,260 --> 00:17:44,150 what may be going on there I am what may 390 00:17:46,850 --> 00:17:45,270 be going on 391 00:17:48,860 --> 00:17:46,860 before we left our case histories and 392 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:48,870 conclusions I want to ask you something 393 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:51,450 here why is it that people become 394 00:17:56,930 --> 00:17:53,730 interested in the subject at this 395 00:18:01,150 --> 00:17:56,940 pre-teenage 9 10 11 years of age like 396 00:18:04,940 --> 00:18:01,160 for me it was age 11 as it was with you 397 00:18:07,460 --> 00:18:04,950 actually a little bit earlier for me as 398 00:18:10,370 --> 00:18:07,470 I this was probably the most personal 399 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:10,380 book that I've done Jean when I began I 400 00:18:16,190 --> 00:18:12,210 thought you know I'm going to be the 401 00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:16,200 objective reporter and about halfway 402 00:18:20,870 --> 00:18:19,110 you know after maybe the first 75 books 403 00:18:22,970 --> 00:18:20,880 people started asking well have you ever 404 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:22,980 had these experiences if he were 405 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:25,170 undergone them and I was still kind of 406 00:18:30,919 --> 00:18:27,210 aloof because again I just wanted to 407 00:18:33,919 --> 00:18:30,929 report well I have since disclosed you 408 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:33,929 know I grew up in a haunted house had 409 00:18:39,290 --> 00:18:37,050 been the old stagecoach stop and legend 410 00:18:41,930 --> 00:18:39,300 surrounded of the James boys and the 411 00:18:44,360 --> 00:18:41,940 Dalton brothers and so forth having 412 00:18:48,500 --> 00:18:44,370 stayed there because it was a hotel to 413 00:18:50,570 --> 00:18:48,510 of course a stage stop and our house was 414 00:18:53,630 --> 00:18:50,580 built with the same lumber after they 415 00:18:57,350 --> 00:18:53,640 tore that down see my sister and I we've 416 00:19:00,410 --> 00:18:57,360 decided we're both insomniacs today 417 00:19:02,540 --> 00:19:00,420 because of us we saw walking through our 418 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:02,550 bedroom every night pretty soon you get 419 00:19:07,910 --> 00:19:05,490 used to it you know but always you know 420 00:19:13,970 --> 00:19:07,920 the sounds of footsteps and thuds and 421 00:19:18,049 --> 00:19:13,980 bumps and and I think that that told me 422 00:19:19,540 --> 00:19:18,059 that there's another dimension to our 423 00:19:22,910 --> 00:19:19,550 reality 424 00:19:25,490 --> 00:19:22,920 but it doesn't hurt you you know you you 425 00:19:26,030 --> 00:19:25,500 you take it E it's startled just once in 426 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:26,040 a while 427 00:19:30,049 --> 00:19:28,170 frightens you maybe on the stormy 428 00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:30,059 evening to see shadows following you 429 00:19:33,350 --> 00:19:30,510 around 430 00:19:36,770 --> 00:19:33,360 but you realize they're always there so 431 00:19:39,410 --> 00:19:36,780 in one sense I guess I've kind of 432 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:39,420 concluded and it seemed strange after 433 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:41,970 all this time but sherry and I were 434 00:19:47,900 --> 00:19:44,010 talking just a couple weeks ago and 435 00:19:50,180 --> 00:19:47,910 we're saying maybe all the many 436 00:19:52,549 --> 00:19:50,190 encounters that we personally have have 437 00:19:56,090 --> 00:19:52,559 and we're now disclosing many of them in 438 00:19:59,310 --> 00:19:56,100 the book maybe it's something I hate to 439 00:20:02,910 --> 00:19:59,320 say in us but maybe it's a certain 440 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:02,920 who knows maybe it's a certain genetics 441 00:20:09,190 --> 00:20:07,370 I've traced my family back as it 442 00:20:13,330 --> 00:20:09,200 convenient and I guess there's always 443 00:20:16,900 --> 00:20:13,340 been an attitude of acceptance toward 444 00:20:20,890 --> 00:20:16,910 the paranormal or the supernatural as it 445 00:20:23,500 --> 00:20:20,900 was called then so maybe and I said I 446 00:20:25,090 --> 00:20:23,510 was just I did not disclose that for 447 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:25,100 many years I was just the objective 448 00:20:29,740 --> 00:20:27,010 reporter running all over the world 449 00:20:34,260 --> 00:20:29,750 recounting these but now I can see that 450 00:20:37,900 --> 00:20:34,270 maybe this was a mission for both of us 451 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:37,910 maybe this was something to share with 452 00:20:44,530 --> 00:20:41,210 others in a way that this is not this is 453 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:44,540 not madness this is not Kooks this is 454 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:46,970 something within us and it's a very 455 00:20:52,390 --> 00:20:49,490 special part and not just within sugar 456 00:20:56,140 --> 00:20:52,400 I'm talking about all of us and maybe 457 00:20:59,770 --> 00:20:56,150 that's the reason for the other the 458 00:21:03,549 --> 00:20:59,780 other continual reminds us that we are 459 00:21:05,470 --> 00:21:03,559 more than physical things we are much 460 00:21:08,950 --> 00:21:05,480 more than physical things and we have 461 00:21:11,830 --> 00:21:08,960 not begun to reach our potential as both 462 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:11,840 spiritual beings and physical beings 463 00:21:16,990 --> 00:21:14,450 all right let's kind of look at some of 464 00:21:19,120 --> 00:21:17,000 this in more detail the languaging 465 00:21:20,890 --> 00:21:19,130 especially we call it paranormal today 466 00:21:22,540 --> 00:21:20,900 we might have called it supernatural or 467 00:21:24,549 --> 00:21:22,550 whatever but why did it become 468 00:21:33,310 --> 00:21:24,559 paranormal why do we change the language 469 00:21:39,220 --> 00:21:33,320 to be more acceptable we when we moved 470 00:21:41,230 --> 00:21:39,230 back to Iowa from Arizona the word came 471 00:21:45,660 --> 00:21:41,240 of course you know that we were those 472 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:45,670 writers and we were very pleased when 473 00:21:51,820 --> 00:21:49,730 local newspaper wanted to do a feature 474 00:21:54,250 --> 00:21:51,830 on us and it was very strange because 475 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:54,260 the reporter kept you know looking 476 00:22:00,669 --> 00:21:57,530 behind things and and looking up and you 477 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:00,679 know checking this and do you have any 478 00:22:06,010 --> 00:22:03,170 and she named several esoteric type 479 00:22:08,740 --> 00:22:06,020 things and we said no no we don't have 480 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:08,750 it and then finally she confessed that 481 00:22:13,130 --> 00:22:11,210 she was supposed to find out you know 482 00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:13,140 what we super 483 00:22:20,090 --> 00:22:17,280 natural people were doing what ulterior 484 00:22:24,530 --> 00:22:20,100 motives did we have moving back to the 485 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:24,540 small town you know were we going to put 486 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:27,570 spells on people or and I thought you 487 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:29,850 know this is incredible in this day and 488 00:22:34,940 --> 00:22:32,490 age they said that you're some kind of 489 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:34,950 weird crazy person this is before they 490 00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:36,930 have a TV show Supernatural by the way 491 00:22:50,180 --> 00:22:40,110 on CW Brad Steiger joins gene and Chris 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with sherry Hanson 604 00:27:28,629 --> 00:27:25,909 steiker is real encounters different 605 00:27:30,129 --> 00:27:28,639 dimensions in otherworldly beings and 606 00:27:31,810 --> 00:27:30,139 was talking about his return from 607 00:27:35,619 --> 00:27:31,820 Arizona not far from where I'm living 608 00:27:38,379 --> 00:27:35,629 now to a new home in Iowa and of course 609 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:38,389 he and his wife were supernatural kind 610 00:27:42,669 --> 00:27:40,129 of people they had to be weird to had to 611 00:27:44,860 --> 00:27:42,679 cast spells is that when you said no 612 00:27:47,649 --> 00:27:44,870 it's paranormal well you tried to 613 00:27:51,489 --> 00:27:47,659 explain and I think that was a long 614 00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:51,499 about answer yes that's why we use the 615 00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:54,110 term paranormal residence supernatural 616 00:28:01,690 --> 00:27:58,490 to me supernatural had to do always with 617 00:28:04,269 --> 00:28:01,700 you know very powerful things you know 618 00:28:07,919 --> 00:28:04,279 like God is supernatural this that's 619 00:28:09,129 --> 00:28:07,929 beyond nature super nature where 620 00:28:11,289 --> 00:28:09,139 paranormal 621 00:28:15,999 --> 00:28:11,299 it seems to me well you know it's it's 622 00:28:18,879 --> 00:28:16,009 it's normal really but it has maybe to 623 00:28:21,310 --> 00:28:18,889 some people an extra kind of juice there 624 00:28:24,730 --> 00:28:21,320 but I think we have to and what we've 625 00:28:27,220 --> 00:28:24,740 tried to do and as you remember gene 626 00:28:29,980 --> 00:28:27,230 sherry and I spent a lot of time doing 627 00:28:32,619 --> 00:28:29,990 seminars and lectures and so forth and 628 00:28:34,989 --> 00:28:32,629 what we tried to do in those seminars 629 00:28:37,570 --> 00:28:34,999 this is tell everybody they're all 630 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:37,580 normal and they're all paranormal they 631 00:28:42,789 --> 00:28:40,730 all have these abilities if you want to 632 00:28:46,269 --> 00:28:42,799 say that but they're very natural you 633 00:28:50,109 --> 00:28:46,279 know like such a thing as pareidolia 634 00:28:53,259 --> 00:28:50,119 where we we tend to see faces in cracks 635 00:28:56,799 --> 00:28:53,269 and trees and walls and so forth seeing 636 00:28:59,859 --> 00:28:56,809 faces it's part of our survival element 637 00:29:03,009 --> 00:28:59,869 because it was very important for pale 638 00:29:06,489 --> 00:29:03,019 if they can Neolithic humans to see 639 00:29:09,009 --> 00:29:06,499 whether it was a saber-toothed tiger or 640 00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:09,019 another person looking back we we are 641 00:29:14,109 --> 00:29:12,080 oriented to look at faces now we get a 642 00:29:16,570 --> 00:29:14,119 lot of pictures and I'll bet you do too 643 00:29:20,739 --> 00:29:16,580 saying I've taken this picture in this 644 00:29:23,950 --> 00:29:20,749 old tavern and there's a cowboy cowboy 645 00:29:27,369 --> 00:29:23,960 from the 1880s leaning there well 646 00:29:30,460 --> 00:29:27,379 probably what we see is just a shadow on 647 00:29:30,670 --> 00:29:30,470 a curtain and we have to say well you 648 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:30,680 know 649 00:29:35,860 --> 00:29:32,930 it could be we could we're not dogmatic 650 00:29:38,950 --> 00:29:35,870 there's no dogma in the paranormal but 651 00:29:41,350 --> 00:29:38,960 we think you know Mary pareidolia maybe 652 00:29:43,780 --> 00:29:41,360 that's just the shadows and maybe should 653 00:29:47,350 --> 00:29:43,790 look at it again but all these things 654 00:29:50,650 --> 00:29:47,360 even that is part of what made us 655 00:29:54,070 --> 00:29:50,660 survive as the species is learning to 656 00:29:57,010 --> 00:29:54,080 use our senses beyond the ordinary 657 00:30:00,400 --> 00:29:57,020 beyond the ordinary sure we can smell we 658 00:30:02,710 --> 00:30:00,410 can see but there's something we use 659 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:02,720 different languages over grow up you say 660 00:30:08,530 --> 00:30:05,330 boy the hairs on the back of my neck 661 00:30:11,740 --> 00:30:08,540 just stood up well that goes way back 662 00:30:14,740 --> 00:30:11,750 when maybe we were had more hair than 663 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:14,750 many of us do now and we had that 664 00:30:19,150 --> 00:30:17,210 instinct you know maybe let's be a 665 00:30:20,950 --> 00:30:19,160 little cautious going around the corner 666 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:20,960 because maybe the cave bear is 667 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:23,330 reclaiming his cave and we don't want to 668 00:30:29,380 --> 00:30:26,330 go home into our cave right now we have 669 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:29,390 these senses businessmen successful 670 00:30:35,470 --> 00:30:32,090 businessmen will speak of their gut 671 00:30:38,710 --> 00:30:35,480 reaction to invest in this or and invest 672 00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:38,720 in that whether we use it to gain power 673 00:30:45,820 --> 00:30:42,320 in terms of wealth or in terms of our 674 00:30:48,220 --> 00:30:45,830 own consciousness of reality we have 675 00:30:50,890 --> 00:30:48,230 these extra abilities but they aren't 676 00:30:53,110 --> 00:30:50,900 extra we just have to learn to recognize 677 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:53,120 them now it's commonly thought that 678 00:30:59,650 --> 00:30:57,050 animals have much more attuned senses 679 00:31:02,140 --> 00:30:59,660 like for example we have a little dog 680 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:02,150 here a Bichon about a year and a half 681 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:06,050 old and he will sense things before we 682 00:31:11,020 --> 00:31:08,570 hear the door knock before we hear 683 00:31:13,330 --> 00:31:11,030 somebody pulling up in a vehicle he 684 00:31:15,970 --> 00:31:13,340 seems to know first is that part of this 685 00:31:16,450 --> 00:31:15,980 effect yeah we have a Bichon too by the 686 00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:16,460 way 687 00:31:24,130 --> 00:31:21,110 it's remarkable you know again growing 688 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:24,140 up always around animals as I did as a 689 00:31:31,750 --> 00:31:29,090 farm boy and probably well as my mother 690 00:31:34,390 --> 00:31:31,760 said I would never sell cattle I would 691 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:34,400 never sell any stock because I 692 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:36,290 could not do that I mean this is 693 00:31:42,370 --> 00:31:39,650 something I was not I was made to live 694 00:31:44,409 --> 00:31:42,380 surrounded by animals and caring for 695 00:31:47,049 --> 00:31:44,419 animals but in terms of 696 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:47,059 sending them to market how do you send 697 00:31:53,799 --> 00:31:49,330 your friends to market you know 698 00:31:56,379 --> 00:31:53,809 searching observing yeah I saw this on 699 00:31:59,889 --> 00:31:56,389 all animals but especially dogs dogs had 700 00:32:02,849 --> 00:31:59,899 never buy me from childhood to write 701 00:32:05,919 --> 00:32:02,859 today are not animals I mean they are 702 00:32:08,830 --> 00:32:05,929 marvelous guides and companions that are 703 00:32:11,289 --> 00:32:08,840 somewhere in between and they chose it's 704 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:11,299 interesting how they chose to link with 705 00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:14,090 us some say and I agree roughly a 706 00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:16,129 hundred and forty thousand years ago 707 00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:19,609 they decided to leave that kingdom 708 00:32:24,690 --> 00:32:21,769 behind and join us and they've been this 709 00:32:28,899 --> 00:32:24,700 constant companion ever since and the 710 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:28,909 reality of their senses which you know 711 00:32:34,749 --> 00:32:31,850 we've written what now five six books on 712 00:32:37,779 --> 00:32:34,759 dogs I guess sherry and I and we're 713 00:32:41,979 --> 00:32:37,789 always amused when some dog was just a 714 00:32:44,859 --> 00:32:41,989 perk just I think Sunday this startling 715 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:44,869 reality and sherry and I said I wonder 716 00:32:49,570 --> 00:32:47,690 what kind of stipend they could that 717 00:32:52,299 --> 00:32:49,580 work cited parent they got to come up 718 00:32:55,389 --> 00:32:52,309 with this startling statement but they 719 00:32:58,629 --> 00:32:55,399 said that dogs bond with their owners in 720 00:33:02,200 --> 00:32:58,639 the same way that babies children bond 721 00:33:04,899 --> 00:33:02,210 with their parents well duh so anyone 722 00:33:08,139 --> 00:33:04,909 who's alert and has any type of 723 00:33:11,379 --> 00:33:08,149 sensibility realizes the bonding that 724 00:33:13,419 --> 00:33:11,389 goes on the structure that exists 725 00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:13,429 between us you know it's it's really a 726 00:33:19,479 --> 00:33:16,369 blessed thing and of course I grew up in 727 00:33:22,539 --> 00:33:19,489 a you know I had to I suppose play 728 00:33:24,729 --> 00:33:22,549 Protestant work ethic had to say that 729 00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:24,739 animals were beneath us because there 730 00:33:29,590 --> 00:33:26,480 probably were lots of little boys like 731 00:33:33,669 --> 00:33:29,600 me that didn't want to sell livestock we 732 00:33:36,159 --> 00:33:33,679 say that man has dominion over animals 733 00:33:39,399 --> 00:33:36,169 and I say you know if you go back and 734 00:33:43,180 --> 00:33:39,409 read those passages in Genesis you see 735 00:33:47,799 --> 00:33:43,190 that God blew the breath of life into 736 00:33:49,869 --> 00:33:47,809 all creations all animals not just old 737 00:33:51,909 --> 00:33:49,879 Adam walking around you know I'll talk 738 00:33:53,830 --> 00:33:51,919 to you about that bonding with a new dog 739 00:33:57,249 --> 00:33:53,840 and I'll give you example of this our 740 00:33:58,159 --> 00:33:57,259 Bichon teddy bear we got him from an 741 00:34:01,549 --> 00:33:58,169 organization 742 00:34:04,340 --> 00:34:01,559 that rescues dogs that have been you 743 00:34:06,830 --> 00:34:04,350 know given to the pound we got him at a 744 00:34:09,470 --> 00:34:06,840 year in one month old in February we 745 00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:09,480 drove from Arizona to San Diego for this 746 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:11,760 organization and what they told us they 747 00:34:15,319 --> 00:34:13,770 first interviewed us they had to make 748 00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:15,329 sure we were suitable to take care of 749 00:34:18,379 --> 00:34:17,520 this animal you know we were suitable 750 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:18,389 they wanted to check our home 751 00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:19,530 surroundings we had to answer 752 00:34:24,349 --> 00:34:22,649 questionnaires I'm serious and there 753 00:34:26,750 --> 00:34:24,359 which is a good thing because you know 754 00:34:31,549 --> 00:34:26,760 we're rescuing this this little person 755 00:34:33,260 --> 00:34:31,559 so as the time came for us to meet him 756 00:34:35,869 --> 00:34:33,270 they said they were preparing him for 757 00:34:38,599 --> 00:34:35,879 our arrival mm-hmm I said okay that's 758 00:34:40,940 --> 00:34:38,609 interesting and then we met him the 759 00:34:42,319 --> 00:34:40,950 first time at the home of one of the 760 00:34:46,129 --> 00:34:42,329 people who works with this organization 761 00:34:50,210 --> 00:34:46,139 is called B Shawn for kids fu our kids 762 00:34:51,770 --> 00:34:50,220 can be Shawn for kids calm right and we 763 00:34:53,780 --> 00:34:51,780 saw him there first of all he was much 764 00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:53,790 bigger than most be Shawn's he weighs 21 765 00:34:59,000 --> 00:34:55,440 pounds and he's a higher percent pure 766 00:35:00,740 --> 00:34:59,010 Bichon they normally watch those okay so 767 00:35:03,579 --> 00:35:00,750 maybe you've got is one of his relatives 768 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:03,589 here nice which would be funny but 769 00:35:08,510 --> 00:35:06,690 interesting so any case he saw us he 770 00:35:10,339 --> 00:35:08,520 just came right up to us and made us 771 00:35:11,930 --> 00:35:10,349 want to hug him so we couldn't stop 772 00:35:14,660 --> 00:35:11,940 hugging this little guy for a couple of 773 00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:14,670 minutes and that's it he was part of the 774 00:35:22,190 --> 00:35:18,690 family right right but it was that love 775 00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:22,200 and if he knew who we were why we were 776 00:35:26,720 --> 00:35:24,000 here and he had to make sure he made the 777 00:35:28,910 --> 00:35:26,730 right impression exactly exactly and I 778 00:35:32,210 --> 00:35:28,920 love it that you said little person not 779 00:35:33,950 --> 00:35:32,220 a little animal a little person and you 780 00:35:37,130 --> 00:35:33,960 know the bonding took place immediately 781 00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:37,140 and he did know he knew that you his 782 00:35:42,740 --> 00:35:39,839 family he was going to be reunited and 783 00:35:44,930 --> 00:35:42,750 you know blest be the tie that binds 784 00:35:48,500 --> 00:35:44,940 well he's a lot of fun as a wacky little 785 00:35:51,770 --> 00:35:48,510 guy yeah man like cat where'd you say 786 00:35:54,740 --> 00:35:51,780 Chris I have a psychic cat you do yeah I 787 00:35:56,990 --> 00:35:54,750 don't know how in the world she knows it 788 00:35:58,490 --> 00:35:57,000 but as soon as I opened my eyes I'm a 789 00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:58,500 very light sleeper especially in the 790 00:36:02,329 --> 00:36:00,480 morning there have been occasions where 791 00:36:04,490 --> 00:36:02,339 she's been really hungry or cold and 792 00:36:07,069 --> 00:36:04,500 she's me out and woke me up but nine 793 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:07,079 times out of ten as soon as I open my 794 00:36:10,609 --> 00:36:09,450 eyes they'll be like a second or two and 795 00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:10,619 then I'll hear or meow 796 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:11,730 outside 797 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:13,410 you know saying could come out and feed 798 00:36:18,859 --> 00:36:16,770 me it's like she knows somehow the 799 00:36:20,540 --> 00:36:18,869 instant that I'm awake and and this is 800 00:36:23,930 --> 00:36:20,550 almost every morning it's it's quite 801 00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:23,940 uncanny on her part well he knows teddy 802 00:36:27,170 --> 00:36:25,440 bear when I get awake in the morning 803 00:36:29,450 --> 00:36:27,180 court may also hear the alarm but he'll 804 00:36:31,099 --> 00:36:29,460 start climbing in the bed waiting for me 805 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:31,109 to get up or waiting for my wife to get 806 00:36:36,230 --> 00:36:33,330 them and in any case sprats tiger joins 807 00:36:39,170 --> 00:36:36,240 us as we discuss other creatures with 808 00:36:50,810 --> 00:36:39,180 whom we intermingle and more with gene 809 00:36:52,820 --> 00:36:50,820 and Chris in the G Z and radio network 810 00:36:57,290 --> 00:36:52,830 providing the world with hard-hitting 811 00:37:03,440 --> 00:36:57,300 talk radio G C and great talk radio 812 00:37:06,050 --> 00:37:03,450 starts here is there a secret UFO agenda 813 00:37:08,720 --> 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UFO at web TV dotnet find out 829 00:37:58,960 --> 00:37:54,900 what they don't want you to know 830 00:38:01,940 --> 00:37:58,970 [Music] 831 00:38:03,830 --> 00:38:01,950 this alert just came in this special 832 00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:03,840 announcement is for business owners and 833 00:38:08,090 --> 00:38:06,000 leaders of organizations who have been 834 00:38:10,670 --> 00:38:08,100 waiting for the right time to build 835 00:38:12,470 --> 00:38:10,680 general steel has made it impossible to 836 00:38:14,690 --> 00:38:12,480 wait any longer with rock-bottom prices 837 00:38:16,940 --> 00:38:14,700 that could save you thousands that's 838 00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:16,950 right general steel America's leader in 839 00:38:20,990 --> 00:38:19,110 pre engineered structures is offering 840 00:38:23,690 --> 00:38:21,000 buildings at prices you will never see 841 00:38:25,940 --> 00:38:23,700 again don't miss these specials a 14 by 842 00:38:28,609 --> 00:38:25,950 21 foot shop for under six 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nine one 857 00:39:04,430 --> 00:39:02,280 seven 83 35 my name is Frank Bates and I 858 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:04,440 got a confession to make just a few days 859 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:05,010 ago 860 00:39:09,950 --> 00:39:07,290 FEMA went directly to my supplier and 861 00:39:12,410 --> 00:39:09,960 tried to buy my entire stockpile of high 862 00:39:14,540 --> 00:39:12,420 quality survival food it sounds crazy 863 00:39:15,620 --> 00:39:14,550 but I'll show you the exact letter they 864 00:39:18,650 --> 00:39:15,630 sent in a minute 865 00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:18,660 revealing FEMA's plot can land me in hot 866 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:20,250 water and I think you deserve and know 867 00:39:25,670 --> 00:39:22,890 exactly what they're doing go to FEMA 868 00:39:27,410 --> 00:39:25,680 hates this that calm to see undeniable 869 00:39:29,630 --> 00:39:27,420 video proof that the government is on 870 00:39:32,810 --> 00:39:29,640 the hunt for as much survival food as 871 00:39:34,940 --> 00:39:32,820 they can grab in 24 hours be warned it's 872 00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:34,950 really disturbing because the fact is 873 00:39:40,370 --> 00:39:38,250 FEMA must know something we don't go to 874 00:39:42,020 --> 00:39:40,380 FEMA hates this dot-com to see want 875 00:39:44,330 --> 00:39:42,030 survival food is the number one item to 876 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:44,340 hoard right now and why supplies are so 877 00:39:49,580 --> 00:39:46,530 low or even completely sold out already 878 00:39:51,710 --> 00:39:49,590 at many stores across America do it now 879 00:39:55,099 --> 00:39:51,720 because I don't know how long it will be 880 00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:55,109 online so go to FEMA hates this calm 881 00:40:02,270 --> 00:39:58,170 while you can that's FEMA hates this 882 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:02,280 dot-com a little over a year ago I began 883 00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:04,770 to do a lot of research into wine even 884 00:40:06,710 --> 00:40:05,040 though 885 00:40:08,750 --> 00:40:06,720 a pretty good-sized meal that was still 886 00:40:11,300 --> 00:40:08,760 starving and my research led me to a 887 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:11,310 well-known fact that most of the soils 888 00:40:14,060 --> 00:40:12,810 that we grow our crops on here in the 889 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:14,070 United States and across the 890 00:40:18,350 --> 00:40:15,690 industrialized world are almost 891 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:18,360 completely depleted of almost all of the 892 00:40:23,390 --> 00:40:20,970 key minerals and trace elements that our 893 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:23,400 bodies need to rebuild themselves fight 894 00:40:27,770 --> 00:40:25,410 off cancer and be healthy I then 895 00:40:30,140 --> 00:40:27,780 searched out the best vitamin and 896 00:40:32,570 --> 00:40:30,150 mineral company out there and discovered 897 00:40:34,310 --> 00:40:32,580 youngevity the youngevity products are 898 00:40:36,770 --> 00:40:34,320 designed to give you the real nutrition 899 00:40:38,270 --> 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love sounds a little 914 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:18,690 bit different it's interesting there's 915 00:41:24,740 --> 00:41:21,450 actually an NBC TV show called Dracula 916 00:41:26,540 --> 00:41:24,750 which doesn't at all resemble the 917 00:41:28,460 --> 00:41:26,550 traditional story has the same 918 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:28,470 characters it's not doing very well I 919 00:41:32,690 --> 00:41:30,690 had watched it 10 minutes I made it 920 00:41:36,110 --> 00:41:32,700 through ten minutes you did it's kind of 921 00:41:39,970 --> 00:41:36,120 confusing the actor Jonathan Rhys Meyers 922 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:39,980 he's an Irishman mm-hmm and he portrays 923 00:41:44,090 --> 00:41:42,690 Dracula either with a British accent or 924 00:41:45,770 --> 00:41:44,100 an American accent because he's 925 00:41:49,580 --> 00:41:45,780 pretending to be an American 926 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:49,590 industrialist like an 1890 Steve Jobs 927 00:41:55,790 --> 00:41:52,530 don't even start with this so we know 928 00:41:58,700 --> 00:41:55,800 that Chris O'Brien has a psychic cat is 929 00:42:01,160 --> 00:41:58,710 it the fact Chris that you get up at the 930 00:42:02,750 --> 00:42:01,170 same time every day or what no not at 931 00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:02,760 all as a matter of fact and I don't use 932 00:42:09,380 --> 00:42:06,720 an alarm I I'm able to program myself to 933 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:09,390 wake up at the proper time she'll do it 934 00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:10,530 it doesn't matter if I have to do a 935 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:13,920 canyon run and get up at 5:30 as soon as 936 00:42:18,769 --> 00:42:16,530 I wake up she'll meow if I've been up 937 00:42:21,259 --> 00:42:18,779 late till 3:00 4:00 in the morning work 938 00:42:23,029 --> 00:42:21,269 on the book or something I don't get up 939 00:42:25,099 --> 00:42:23,039 till later as soon as I open my eyes 940 00:42:28,699 --> 00:42:25,109 they'll be a pause and then chill me out 941 00:42:30,589 --> 00:42:28,709 and you know occasionally she she gets 942 00:42:33,799 --> 00:42:30,599 ahead of herself and she does me out and 943 00:42:36,589 --> 00:42:33,809 it often times wakes me up so I'm pretty 944 00:42:39,380 --> 00:42:36,599 sure I've kind of I've been very alert 945 00:42:42,529 --> 00:42:39,390 to this for the last couple three years 946 00:42:45,169 --> 00:42:42,539 and and she's really she's amazing 947 00:42:47,870 --> 00:42:45,179 it's the the animals the sensitivities 948 00:42:50,659 --> 00:42:47,880 have always intrigued me 949 00:42:52,999 --> 00:42:50,669 but this bond that they have I think 950 00:42:54,529 --> 00:42:53,009 with with the people that they trust and 951 00:42:56,509 --> 00:42:54,539 in feed them and take care of them I 952 00:42:58,849 --> 00:42:56,519 think that there's a special bond that's 953 00:43:01,009 --> 00:42:58,859 that's established and it does there's a 954 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:01,019 some kind of psychic link there I'm 955 00:43:06,469 --> 00:43:03,650 fairly convinced to that oh yeah the 956 00:43:08,419 --> 00:43:06,479 relationship is different though and you 957 00:43:12,140 --> 00:43:08,429 have to be careful and no dog people and 958 00:43:14,929 --> 00:43:12,150 cat people but the cat you know has to 959 00:43:18,620 --> 00:43:14,939 accept you don't own a cat there don't 960 00:43:21,409 --> 00:43:18,630 you yeah and you know it comes up in and 961 00:43:23,959 --> 00:43:21,419 rubs your leg and that means okay you 962 00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:23,969 are right no it's interesting that when 963 00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:27,089 I was let's see if I would have been 12 964 00:43:35,899 --> 00:43:32,400 and 13 I was out doing chores and I 965 00:43:39,829 --> 00:43:35,909 heard him yell up on the barn roof and 966 00:43:42,469 --> 00:43:39,839 here was this ugly cat I mean it had 967 00:43:45,289 --> 00:43:42,479 marveled here so that it actually looked 968 00:43:47,870 --> 00:43:45,299 like it had a little human faith and it 969 00:43:49,929 --> 00:43:47,880 leapt from the barn luckily this was 970 00:43:53,569 --> 00:43:49,939 winter and I had a winter coat on and 971 00:43:56,390 --> 00:43:53,579 landed on my shoulder just like you know 972 00:43:59,539 --> 00:43:56,400 a parrot and the old pirate stereotype 973 00:44:03,289 --> 00:43:59,549 and that was the way it stayed as long 974 00:44:06,049 --> 00:44:03,299 as the cat was with us it would ride on 975 00:44:09,529 --> 00:44:06,059 my shoulder when I would do chores now 976 00:44:13,549 --> 00:44:09,539 in the summer time dad had given my 977 00:44:15,979 --> 00:44:13,559 sister and myself an old brooder house 978 00:44:18,469 --> 00:44:15,989 which was like a little house in other 979 00:44:21,589 --> 00:44:18,479 windows the doors everything so in one 980 00:44:24,679 --> 00:44:21,599 and my sister had her Playhouse the 981 00:44:27,799 --> 00:44:24,689 other end I had my books and my artwork 982 00:44:31,249 --> 00:44:27,809 because I wanted to be this incredible 983 00:44:32,990 --> 00:44:31,259 cartoonist when I grew up quote-unquote 984 00:44:35,030 --> 00:44:33,000 so I would come every 985 00:44:37,730 --> 00:44:35,040 day when I had a break I'm break from 986 00:44:39,890 --> 00:44:37,740 doing farm chores and in a regular time 987 00:44:42,170 --> 00:44:39,900 whenever I had a minute I just ran and 988 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:42,180 sat at my drawing board was drawing I 989 00:44:46,910 --> 00:44:44,850 would never be there I would never be 990 00:44:50,030 --> 00:44:46,920 there longer than one or two minutes and 991 00:44:52,700 --> 00:44:50,040 this was irregular times when the cat 992 00:44:55,850 --> 00:44:52,710 would jump through the window and watch 993 00:44:58,070 --> 00:44:55,860 me draw I really felt for a time that 994 00:44:59,780 --> 00:44:58,080 that was like a familiar you know with 995 00:45:02,210 --> 00:44:59,790 their way had acted I didn't know that 996 00:45:05,540 --> 00:45:02,220 then when I was 12 but when I look back 997 00:45:08,780 --> 00:45:05,550 on it just the way that Kant interacted 998 00:45:11,570 --> 00:45:08,790 and then one day was gone and I feel you 999 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:11,580 know it spent its time with me and and 1000 00:45:17,330 --> 00:45:14,010 that's what cats do they come and they 1001 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:17,340 go the relationship you know and of 1002 00:45:22,580 --> 00:45:19,290 course we have wonderful relationships 1003 00:45:24,980 --> 00:45:22,590 with cats when we open ourselves to it 1004 00:45:27,710 --> 00:45:24,990 but but it's I think very different from 1005 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:27,720 that of the dog who yeah you know again 1006 00:45:34,490 --> 00:45:31,170 on the farm the dog was like the hired 1007 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:34,500 man the dog stayed with us in a leash 1008 00:45:39,500 --> 00:45:37,050 the livestock was at the other end and 1009 00:45:43,550 --> 00:45:39,510 and he really was like a hired man and 1010 00:45:46,010 --> 00:45:43,560 in those days you could not farm unless 1011 00:45:48,890 --> 00:45:46,020 you had a dog at least one dog because 1012 00:45:52,670 --> 00:45:48,900 you know there are always the foxes and 1013 00:45:55,460 --> 00:45:52,680 the Badgers and possums I mean every 1014 00:45:57,410 --> 00:45:55,470 night was like a raid on the farm play 1015 00:45:59,930 --> 00:45:57,420 the creatures that came out of the 1016 00:46:03,170 --> 00:45:59,940 forest in the henhouse grab the hands 1017 00:46:05,180 --> 00:46:03,180 get the eggs I mean it was just and then 1018 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:05,190 there were the packs of wild dogs that 1019 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:07,170 were around so you had to have that 1020 00:46:14,300 --> 00:46:11,010 close companion that k9 buddy up by the 1021 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:14,310 house you know I'm not really a cat 1022 00:46:23,090 --> 00:46:18,570 person I inherited them so I slowly 1023 00:46:25,220 --> 00:46:23,100 become entrained to be a cat person you 1024 00:46:27,770 --> 00:46:25,230 know again that the cats we've had I 1025 00:46:30,650 --> 00:46:27,780 think it was the whole attitude because 1026 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:30,660 they you know they the dog or the cat 1027 00:46:35,510 --> 00:46:33,090 listened to verbal commands if we say 1028 00:46:37,220 --> 00:46:35,520 don't jump up it wouldn't jump up when 1029 00:46:40,940 --> 00:46:37,230 it was kittens I remember they would 1030 00:46:43,550 --> 00:46:40,950 come to our daughters and they wanted 1031 00:46:46,070 --> 00:46:43,560 help I mean they they wanted midwife's 1032 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:46,080 they wanted humans and so forth so again 1033 00:46:50,030 --> 00:46:46,970 it was 1034 00:46:51,890 --> 00:46:50,040 you know people say cats did not respond 1035 00:46:53,660 --> 00:46:51,900 to verbal commands but I think it 1036 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:53,670 depends on the cat and depends on the 1037 00:46:59,150 --> 00:46:56,490 person it depends on the relationship 1038 00:47:01,339 --> 00:46:59,160 and in the link the psychic link that 1039 00:47:04,970 --> 00:47:01,349 you have know well she's trained me to 1040 00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:04,980 respond to her verbal commands she has a 1041 00:47:08,809 --> 00:47:07,049 particular meow and she wants to go out 1042 00:47:11,210 --> 00:47:08,819 or come in she has a meow when she's 1043 00:47:13,970 --> 00:47:11,220 hungry she she has a meow when she's 1044 00:47:17,210 --> 00:47:13,980 when there's some sort of danger lurking 1045 00:47:19,069 --> 00:47:17,220 about so she's pretty effective little 1046 00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:19,079 communicator for a cat which is I think 1047 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:21,569 a little on the rare side one part of 1048 00:47:28,250 --> 00:47:25,890 cats that I like when we first moved we 1049 00:47:31,370 --> 00:47:28,260 were out in the country when there came 1050 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:31,380 back to Iowa well not right away but the 1051 00:47:36,500 --> 00:47:34,650 second big home that we had and there 1052 00:47:38,839 --> 00:47:36,510 was a scratching at the door one morning 1053 00:47:41,690 --> 00:47:38,849 and I came out and there was a little 1054 00:47:44,210 --> 00:47:41,700 tuxedo cat and I said you know I really 1055 00:47:47,539 --> 00:47:44,220 don't want a cat I really don't need one 1056 00:47:49,309 --> 00:47:47,549 but I said you look bedraggled 1057 00:47:52,910 --> 00:47:49,319 and if you're going to stay now in this 1058 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:52,920 household everyone doesn't share so if 1059 00:47:59,150 --> 00:47:55,770 you do you're sure you can stay the next 1060 00:48:05,240 --> 00:47:59,160 morning I came out and there on the 1061 00:48:09,770 --> 00:48:05,250 porch was a rat a gopher and some other 1062 00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:09,780 indescribable animal that Bart as we 1063 00:48:16,130 --> 00:48:12,569 call them Bart had laid out indicating 1064 00:48:19,069 --> 00:48:16,140 he would do his share and I said okay 1065 00:48:22,569 --> 00:48:19,079 here's I'm doing a you're part of the 1066 00:48:27,589 --> 00:48:22,579 family now oh you're a big softie oh 1067 00:48:30,049 --> 00:48:27,599 yeah when he offered no showing polly 1068 00:48:32,450 --> 00:48:30,059 was going to take care of the vermin you 1069 00:48:35,150 --> 00:48:32,460 know and we say that with a hearty voice 1070 00:48:37,220 --> 00:48:35,160 yeah because from the very men's fine 1071 00:48:39,799 --> 00:48:37,230 point they they ain't vermin 1072 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:39,809 no they belong here just as much as we 1073 00:48:44,210 --> 00:48:42,450 do yeah you know there's a question here 1074 00:48:45,620 --> 00:48:44,220 that I think is a good one to ask right 1075 00:48:49,309 --> 00:48:45,630 now we do have a number of questions 1076 00:48:51,799 --> 00:48:49,319 from forum dr. Peric ascom where you the 1077 00:48:54,170 --> 00:48:51,809 listener can ask questions of our guests 1078 00:48:57,410 --> 00:48:54,180 and this one comes from Burt stay in it 1079 00:48:59,960 --> 00:48:57,420 it's a I took a good place to start with 1080 00:49:00,650 --> 00:48:59,970 the questions and he goes in your latest 1081 00:49:02,660 --> 00:49:00,660 book where you 1082 00:49:04,670 --> 00:49:02,670 find the other as the collection of 1083 00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:04,680 immaterial sightings of angels demons 1084 00:49:11,720 --> 00:49:09,599 ghosts aliens etc what specific proofs 1085 00:49:13,069 --> 00:49:11,730 do you have that these frequent 1086 00:49:15,559 --> 00:49:13,079 sightings are something actually 1087 00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:15,569 independent and outside of us as opposed 1088 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:17,280 to just a history of human stories 1089 00:49:22,819 --> 00:49:19,410 cultural training and folklore 1090 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:22,829 okay so common to us all that we see 1091 00:49:27,380 --> 00:49:25,530 these entities because we expect to that 1092 00:49:29,750 --> 00:49:27,390 that's part of it the person probably 1093 00:49:32,420 --> 00:49:29,760 heard me on radio sure but hasn't read 1094 00:49:35,930 --> 00:49:32,430 the book yet or the person would know 1095 00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:35,940 that that's that's in the book but to 1096 00:49:41,690 --> 00:49:39,359 answer it to be fair yes we say that it 1097 00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:41,700 can be the collective unconscious it can 1098 00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:45,839 be the commonality of us as inherited 1099 00:49:50,750 --> 00:49:48,480 you know all these stories and that's 1100 00:49:54,170 --> 00:49:50,760 the point we make again and again in the 1101 00:49:56,599 --> 00:49:54,180 book that why shouldn't it be the same 1102 00:49:58,970 --> 00:49:56,609 entities all the time because we've had 1103 00:50:03,710 --> 00:49:58,980 that you know we've had the we people 1104 00:50:07,819 --> 00:50:03,720 we've had the old man of the woods which 1105 00:50:10,789 --> 00:50:07,829 easily becomes Bigfoot in in you know 1106 00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:10,799 certainly and some interpretations we 1107 00:50:18,319 --> 00:50:13,680 have these are simple figures that are 1108 00:50:20,089 --> 00:50:18,329 part of us are unconscious so yes we say 1109 00:50:22,700 --> 00:50:20,099 that and we emphasize that in the book 1110 00:50:26,500 --> 00:50:22,710 that that is the form that the other 1111 00:50:30,859 --> 00:50:26,510 will take but yet we feel that there is 1112 00:50:34,609 --> 00:50:30,869 this external intelligence that utilizes 1113 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:34,619 mask itself in these physical forms that 1114 00:50:41,870 --> 00:50:37,650 are very much a part of us and who we 1115 00:50:45,230 --> 00:50:41,880 are and the age we are determine so much 1116 00:50:47,660 --> 00:50:45,240 you know what we will see and for some 1117 00:50:51,559 --> 00:50:47,670 as I and and basically what we're saying 1118 00:50:53,809 --> 00:50:51,569 whoever has these experiences whenever 1119 00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:53,819 they have them and this is something we 1120 00:50:58,940 --> 00:50:56,250 make serious when we interview people is 1121 00:51:01,730 --> 00:50:58,950 that we have respect for their 1122 00:51:04,700 --> 00:51:01,740 experience and we know that for many 1123 00:51:08,660 --> 00:51:04,710 their concept of reality has been 1124 00:51:12,650 --> 00:51:08,670 forever expanded by this interaction 1125 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:12,660 right and they cannot be dissuaded that 1126 00:51:16,740 --> 00:51:14,170 they did not see it 1127 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:16,750 and it becomes for so many people a life 1128 00:51:22,740 --> 00:51:19,690 altering experience an illumination an 1129 00:51:24,059 --> 00:51:22,750 epiphany if you will that has changed 1130 00:51:26,730 --> 00:51:24,069 their life forever 1131 00:51:28,470 --> 00:51:26,740 all right so much more to 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the gold 1174 00:54:13,329 --> 00:54:04,420 standard of paranormal radio and now 1175 00:54:16,329 --> 00:54:13,339 here's Jane Steinberg there is Bayless 1176 00:54:18,759 --> 00:54:16,339 tiger I mean Brad stager excused joining 1177 00:54:20,499 --> 00:54:18,769 Jen and Chris the book is called real 1178 00:54:22,390 --> 00:54:20,509 Encounters different dimensions and 1179 00:54:24,699 --> 00:54:22,400 otherworldly beings Brad was busy 1180 00:54:28,469 --> 00:54:24,709 answering a listeners question you want 1181 00:54:35,829 --> 00:54:32,680 think that probably does it we go pick 1182 00:54:38,890 --> 00:54:35,839 it up probably throughout the discussion 1183 00:54:41,890 --> 00:54:38,900 today because that is the essence of the 1184 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:41,900 book you know that we we utilize these 1185 00:54:47,620 --> 00:54:46,249 in a sense they become and stay with me 1186 00:54:50,829 --> 00:54:47,630 on this the kind of like psychic 1187 00:54:53,650 --> 00:54:50,839 shorthand when maybe the recipient the 1188 00:54:55,799 --> 00:54:53,660 viewer the experiencer doesn't realize 1189 00:54:59,170 --> 00:54:55,809 that at the time maybe he never will but 1190 00:55:01,839 --> 00:54:59,180 someone you know you know when you 1191 00:55:06,489 --> 00:55:01,849 studied this field and been in the field 1192 00:55:09,729 --> 00:55:06,499 and going to you know haunted houses and 1193 00:55:12,519 --> 00:55:09,739 UFO sightings and talking to it seems 1194 00:55:15,039 --> 00:55:12,529 you know an endless number of contactees 1195 00:55:18,969 --> 00:55:15,049 and abductees and you start putting 1196 00:55:26,439 --> 00:55:18,979 these things together and to discuss 1197 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:26,449 this with well for some people and one 1198 00:55:31,630 --> 00:55:28,729 has to be I think very careful that you 1199 00:55:34,109 --> 00:55:31,640 do not shake anyone's what when you've 1200 00:55:37,809 --> 00:55:34,119 recognized that someone has a true and 1201 00:55:41,529 --> 00:55:37,819 meaningful belief I don't think anyone 1202 00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:41,539 has the right to challenge that or shake 1203 00:55:49,209 --> 00:55:44,690 that it's becomes part of the 1204 00:55:50,859 --> 00:55:49,219 individuals individual zeitgeist and and 1205 00:55:53,469 --> 00:55:50,869 I don't think you have a right to do 1206 00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:53,479 that but if a person is open to it and 1207 00:55:58,569 --> 00:55:55,910 since the book has come out many people 1208 00:56:01,089 --> 00:55:58,579 have written and said you know I thought 1209 00:56:03,009 --> 00:56:01,099 my experience with this but now I'm open 1210 00:56:07,469 --> 00:56:03,019 that this was maybe contact from a 1211 00:56:09,310 --> 00:56:07,479 higher source a multi-dimensional source 1212 00:56:11,830 --> 00:56:09,320 instead of 1213 00:56:14,470 --> 00:56:11,840 and here again I'll tread on somebody's 1214 00:56:16,240 --> 00:56:14,480 feet and I don't intend to so if your 1215 00:56:19,180 --> 00:56:16,250 tread on your feet don't worry about 1216 00:56:21,460 --> 00:56:19,190 this is the power cast okay okay 1217 00:56:25,140 --> 00:56:21,470 so a lot of people feel that they have 1218 00:56:29,590 --> 00:56:25,150 been abducted by aliens from outer space 1219 00:56:33,970 --> 00:56:29,600 now if you can accept that this was some 1220 00:56:36,190 --> 00:56:33,980 type of spiritual growth experience 1221 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:36,200 where instead of being examined by 1222 00:56:41,380 --> 00:56:38,090 little doctors from outer space that 1223 00:56:44,140 --> 00:56:41,390 maybe your spiritual self or even your 1224 00:56:48,540 --> 00:56:44,150 physical self your higher self or the 1225 00:56:53,140 --> 00:56:48,550 other this dimensional guide was 1226 00:56:58,020 --> 00:56:53,150 evaluating you for a better life here so 1227 00:57:00,700 --> 00:56:58,030 that instead of being monsters or 1228 00:57:04,540 --> 00:57:00,710 sadists from outer space who treated you 1229 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:04,550 badly maybe this is a convolution of an 1230 00:57:10,420 --> 00:57:07,490 experience a psychic experience in which 1231 00:57:12,910 --> 00:57:10,430 you have a growth experience from what 1232 00:57:14,710 --> 00:57:12,920 seemed to the interaction now we know we 1233 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:14,720 are influenced by the media were 1234 00:57:20,430 --> 00:57:17,210 influenced by television were influenced 1235 00:57:25,810 --> 00:57:20,440 by the movies and once we have these and 1236 00:57:28,270 --> 00:57:25,820 our Kipple elements presented to us that 1237 00:57:30,790 --> 00:57:28,280 becomes you know residual that becomes 1238 00:57:33,370 --> 00:57:30,800 what is called a meme and we have so 1239 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:33,380 many memes going now we have shadow 1240 00:57:40,570 --> 00:57:37,010 people and we have the Slenderman and we 1241 00:57:43,990 --> 00:57:40,580 have you know the everlasting three men 1242 00:57:46,420 --> 00:57:44,000 and black we have these planted into our 1243 00:57:50,380 --> 00:57:46,430 unconscious and we may then be 1244 00:57:53,170 --> 00:57:50,390 undergoing an internal evolution of 1245 00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:53,180 spirit that expresses itself in these 1246 00:58:00,250 --> 00:57:58,010 ancient octuple devices we needed an 1247 00:58:03,250 --> 00:58:00,260 impetus we needed something that would 1248 00:58:07,210 --> 00:58:03,260 bring us to this realization so what 1249 00:58:10,270 --> 00:58:07,220 better then our age-old monsters that 1250 00:58:13,930 --> 00:58:10,280 are always there to serve their role as 1251 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:13,940 teachers you know and these these these 1252 00:58:18,790 --> 00:58:17,090 symbols are these these images have a 1253 00:58:22,149 --> 00:58:18,800 life of their own they actually develop 1254 00:58:24,829 --> 00:58:22,159 over time and and the more that change 1255 00:58:31,129 --> 00:58:24,839 exactly you know we just we just had 1256 00:58:35,089 --> 00:58:31,139 Halloween and now every town I don't 1257 00:58:37,459 --> 00:58:35,099 think any any place is immune to this 1258 00:58:40,219 --> 00:58:37,469 around Halloween they start dropping out 1259 00:58:43,429 --> 00:58:40,229 there local color ghost stories right 1260 00:58:46,129 --> 00:58:43,439 and it's almost always there's there's 1261 00:58:50,079 --> 00:58:46,139 been an old nunnery there let us burn 1262 00:58:54,169 --> 00:58:50,089 down and phantom nuns are seen you know 1263 00:58:56,539 --> 00:58:54,179 and eventually people go out and let's 1264 00:58:59,479 --> 00:58:56,549 see the phantom nun and by golly they 1265 00:59:02,120 --> 00:58:59,489 they see it because that entity has 1266 00:59:04,549 --> 00:59:02,130 become like a psychic marionette that 1267 00:59:07,549 --> 00:59:04,559 entity has taken on a life of its own 1268 00:59:11,839 --> 00:59:07,559 and the haunted the spectral dog that 1269 00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:11,849 haunts part of a river the phantom 1270 00:59:18,199 --> 00:59:14,609 hitchhiker the lady the young woman does 1271 00:59:20,599 --> 00:59:18,209 it has to get home after the prom all of 1272 00:59:22,819 --> 00:59:20,609 these things do take on a life of their 1273 00:59:27,489 --> 00:59:24,949 like the devil sightings in the Espanola 1274 00:59:29,870 --> 00:59:27,499 Valley that go all the way back to the 1275 00:59:32,629 --> 00:59:29,880 end of the nineteenth beginning of 20th 1276 00:59:35,809 --> 00:59:32,639 century and every few decades boom you 1277 00:59:40,339 --> 00:59:35,819 have a a reamer gence of this particular 1278 00:59:43,579 --> 00:59:40,349 phenomenal type and in it it's reported 1279 00:59:46,609 --> 00:59:43,589 by people in lately even people willing 1280 00:59:48,589 --> 00:59:46,619 to go on the record dirt and Chris you 1281 00:59:50,959 --> 00:59:48,599 and I share a fascination for the 1282 00:59:54,079 --> 00:59:50,969 trickster you know as it is portrayed 1283 00:59:56,749 --> 00:59:54,089 both in Native American culture and in 1284 00:59:59,689 --> 00:59:56,759 European culture and in every culture in 1285 01:00:01,999 --> 00:59:59,699 the world it is examine it and this is a 1286 01:00:05,539 --> 01:00:02,009 very important part this is a very 1287 01:00:07,909 --> 01:00:05,549 important role of the other you know the 1288 01:00:11,059 --> 01:00:07,919 trickster can be for some people as you 1289 01:00:13,729 --> 01:00:11,069 just were saying devil a demon you have 1290 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:13,739 to watch out or to others that can 1291 01:00:22,219 --> 01:00:17,130 become this bearer of an epiphany of an 1292 01:00:25,669 --> 01:00:22,229 illumination right good point and or a 1293 01:00:28,879 --> 01:00:25,679 lesson or to show you that that life is 1294 01:00:31,909 --> 01:00:28,889 is more inexplicable than than we care 1295 01:00:33,700 --> 01:00:31,919 to to you know admit to ourselves and 1296 01:00:35,980 --> 01:00:33,710 into each other 1297 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:35,990 and there's there's a lesson there and 1298 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:38,690 always that is the basic lesson isn't it 1299 01:00:44,070 --> 01:00:41,450 Chris that is the basic lesson you know 1300 01:00:47,349 --> 01:00:44,080 it shocks us out of our static 1301 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:47,359 structures and systems makes us payment 1302 01:00:52,690 --> 01:00:49,730 how are they ask you one thing Brad 1303 01:00:55,599 --> 01:00:52,700 before we go on these creatures of all 1304 01:00:58,030 --> 01:00:55,609 sorts of forms and shapes and methods of 1305 01:01:04,120 --> 01:00:58,040 communication is it all caused by the 1306 01:01:06,670 --> 01:01:04,130 same source or what oh boy you know the 1307 01:01:09,010 --> 01:01:06,680 easy answer is yes there is some 1308 01:01:13,780 --> 01:01:09,020 intelligence external intelligence and 1309 01:01:15,910 --> 01:01:13,790 so forth but you know as I said there's 1310 01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:15,920 no crying in baseball and there's no 1311 01:01:24,700 --> 01:01:20,290 dogma in the paranormal you know it's I 1312 01:01:27,579 --> 01:01:24,710 I think either share I would probably 1313 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:27,589 not take that plane those dogmatic step 1314 01:01:36,420 --> 01:01:30,410 but we were saying basically the other 1315 01:01:40,589 --> 01:01:36,430 in terms of being an inclusive concept 1316 01:01:42,970 --> 01:01:40,599 to say that it is the other 1317 01:01:47,710 --> 01:01:42,980 multi-dimensional intelligence extra 1318 01:01:53,470 --> 01:01:47,720 dimensional intelligence yeah you can 1319 01:01:56,890 --> 01:01:53,480 say that you know the basic symbolism 1320 01:01:59,410 --> 01:01:56,900 and it's a good one and a simple one if 1321 01:02:02,910 --> 01:01:59,420 you have only one moon in that sky at 1322 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:02,920 night but let's say below there's a 1323 01:02:10,900 --> 01:02:08,450 gardener and he has 200 empty flower 1324 01:02:12,370 --> 01:02:10,910 pots and it's rain the night before so 1325 01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:12,380 there's water and every one of the 1326 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:15,290 flower pots so you have one moon but 1327 01:02:19,930 --> 01:02:17,690 down you have two hundred little moons 1328 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:19,940 in these pots so it may be something 1329 01:02:26,500 --> 01:02:23,210 like that and and I realize that may be 1330 01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:26,510 amorphous to some but I think some will 1331 01:02:32,230 --> 01:02:30,290 understand that analogy there appears to 1332 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:32,240 be an interconnectedness though on some 1333 01:02:38,020 --> 01:02:35,290 deep level that at least in my personal 1334 01:02:40,180 --> 01:02:38,030 research and view and based on my own 1335 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:40,190 experience as I have always suspected 1336 01:02:46,870 --> 01:02:43,970 that there is some some web of 1337 01:02:50,470 --> 01:02:46,880 connection between all these disparate 1338 01:02:52,210 --> 01:02:50,480 yeah we feel there is very much some you 1339 01:02:55,630 --> 01:02:52,220 know yeah but they all they all do have 1340 01:02:58,630 --> 01:02:55,640 a life of their own yeah yeah yeah but 1341 01:03:01,150 --> 01:02:58,640 but again as I say that an elegy of one 1342 01:03:04,540 --> 01:03:01,160 moon but 200 moons in the flowerpots 1343 01:03:07,870 --> 01:03:04,550 yeah yeah you know if you can follow 1344 01:03:09,940 --> 01:03:07,880 that I know it's amorphous on one level 1345 01:03:13,990 --> 01:03:09,950 but if you just stop and think about it 1346 01:03:19,620 --> 01:03:14,000 you know it's okay you know there's 1347 01:03:22,270 --> 01:03:19,630 three of us talking here and ostensibly 1348 01:03:24,510 --> 01:03:22,280 hundreds of thousands can be listening 1349 01:03:27,150 --> 01:03:24,520 to it and it will be an 1350 01:03:29,770 --> 01:03:27,160 interconnectedness right we have this 1351 01:03:30,460 --> 01:03:29,780 interconnectedness that we have to deal 1352 01:03:33,220 --> 01:03:30,470 with right now 1353 01:03:36,250 --> 01:03:33,230 it's the sort of interconnectedness that 1354 01:03:38,710 --> 01:03:36,260 radio shows of this type encounter every 1355 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:38,720 nine or ten minutes or so with gene and 1356 01:03:45,590 --> 01:03:41,210 Chris and brights Tiger you're in the 1357 01:03:50,990 --> 01:03:48,339 [Music] 1358 01:03:53,870 --> 01:03:51,000 so here's what happened I was placing an 1359 01:03:56,750 --> 01:03:53,880 order online the site went down it just 1360 01:03:58,609 --> 01:03:56,760 stopped responding it took hours before 1361 01:04:00,380 --> 01:03:58,619 it returned but I'd already placed the 1362 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:00,390 order with another company if your site 1363 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:02,970 goes down you could lose business and if 1364 01:04:06,890 --> 01:04:04,530 you have a business or personal site 1365 01:04:10,640 --> 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01:08:23,770 with these others who and what they 1463 01:08:28,970 --> 01:08:26,230 might be some suggest that these beings 1464 01:08:31,950 --> 01:08:28,980 in their various and sundry forms are 1465 01:08:33,510 --> 01:08:31,960 visitors from other planets or star 1466 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:33,520 systems or whatever what do you think 1467 01:08:39,530 --> 01:08:35,890 you know some maybe some maybe we 1468 01:08:43,039 --> 01:08:39,540 certainly have to entertain that I after 1469 01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:43,049 traveling here and there and abroad I 1470 01:08:50,340 --> 01:08:46,960 tend to say it's multi-dimensional or 1471 01:08:52,650 --> 01:08:50,350 interdimensional or whatever term we 1472 01:08:55,950 --> 01:08:52,660 want to say that but it's it's something 1473 01:08:59,039 --> 01:08:55,960 that perhaps is around us at all times 1474 01:09:03,240 --> 01:08:59,049 and conveniently now because we're in 1475 01:09:05,220 --> 01:09:03,250 the Space Age assumes that as an 1476 01:09:08,340 --> 01:09:05,230 identity that will be more easily 1477 01:09:12,450 --> 01:09:08,350 perceived but in many ways you know the 1478 01:09:16,019 --> 01:09:12,460 phenomena has stayed the same and we 1479 01:09:18,660 --> 01:09:16,029 called them first to say we called them 1480 01:09:21,269 --> 01:09:18,670 the che we called them the fairies the 1481 01:09:23,579 --> 01:09:21,279 elves and they've always been with us 1482 01:09:25,709 --> 01:09:23,589 and it's basically the same phenomenon 1483 01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:25,719 they would take people away for what 1484 01:09:34,559 --> 01:09:29,370 seemed like a year or two and back on 1485 01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:34,569 person reality we have only gone for two 1486 01:09:39,599 --> 01:09:37,600 minutes or the converse they're gone for 1487 01:09:42,150 --> 01:09:39,609 two minutes but to you it's a year I 1488 01:09:45,300 --> 01:09:42,160 mean all these things and the changeling 1489 01:09:49,410 --> 01:09:45,310 the hybrids that the fairies were always 1490 01:09:51,959 --> 01:09:49,420 trying to manage they're trying to breed 1491 01:09:55,050 --> 01:09:51,969 with us the hybrids were people were 1492 01:09:59,610 --> 01:09:55,060 either taken away to breed with the 1493 01:10:02,310 --> 01:09:59,620 fluid Ave or hybrid beings were left and 1494 01:10:03,399 --> 01:10:02,320 and that someone's child was taken away 1495 01:10:06,250 --> 01:10:03,409 too 1496 01:10:09,310 --> 01:10:06,260 be breath again this is ancient and it's 1497 01:10:11,969 --> 01:10:09,320 in all cultures so I think we kind of 1498 01:10:15,339 --> 01:10:11,979 have an overlay and then for our 1499 01:10:17,290 --> 01:10:15,349 sophisticated age after we we talked 1500 01:10:19,419 --> 01:10:17,300 about going to the moon into other 1501 01:10:23,339 --> 01:10:19,429 worlds and we see Star Trek and Star 1502 01:10:25,810 --> 01:10:23,349 Wars it is firmly ensconced now as 1503 01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:25,820 aliens from another world not saying 1504 01:10:31,839 --> 01:10:28,130 that there is a life in other worlds but 1505 01:10:34,620 --> 01:10:31,849 I think the traffic and the number of 1506 01:10:37,959 --> 01:10:34,630 instances and when I see some UFO 1507 01:10:40,179 --> 01:10:37,969 organizations giving their estimate of 1508 01:10:42,819 --> 01:10:40,189 how many people have been abducted I 1509 01:10:45,759 --> 01:10:42,829 mean it's just phenomenal and I think 1510 01:10:48,429 --> 01:10:45,769 here again this this is a meme that 1511 01:10:51,489 --> 01:10:48,439 lends itself so much to popular culture 1512 01:10:53,830 --> 01:10:51,499 because we all like a boogeyman and we'd 1513 01:10:56,979 --> 01:10:53,840 like to see you know the outer space 1514 01:11:01,719 --> 01:10:56,989 that come to eat Detroit and so forth so 1515 01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:01,729 I think yes it's right I'm afraid they 1516 01:11:07,239 --> 01:11:04,489 did yes I regret that because Detroit 1517 01:11:09,609 --> 01:11:07,249 that's always one of my favorite cities 1518 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:09,619 and what has happened there is tragic 1519 01:11:13,089 --> 01:11:11,570 when people ask me that question I 1520 01:11:14,890 --> 01:11:13,099 always say wait a minute I have a 1521 01:11:16,449 --> 01:11:14,900 sneaking hunch that were the aliens and 1522 01:11:17,919 --> 01:11:16,459 that what you're talking about sway more 1523 01:11:20,169 --> 01:11:17,929 terrestrial than we are it's been here 1524 01:11:22,020 --> 01:11:20,179 probably far longer exactly it's been 1525 01:11:25,299 --> 01:11:22,030 here ever since we stood upright and 1526 01:11:27,669 --> 01:11:25,309 undoubtedly before we stood upright to 1527 01:11:30,009 --> 01:11:27,679 say when they do communicate say there 1528 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:30,019 are cousin species of ours you know and 1529 01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:33,050 and we know that in every culture well 1530 01:11:37,689 --> 01:11:35,090 we've just had the discovery now if they 1531 01:11:40,390 --> 01:11:37,699 hobbits as they're called the Florence's 1532 01:11:42,189 --> 01:11:40,400 and I think an interesting thing you 1533 01:11:44,290 --> 01:11:42,199 know fascinating the world's before our 1534 01:11:47,020 --> 01:11:44,300 own and what mysteries of time and space 1535 01:11:48,699 --> 01:11:47,030 I've always been fascinated by who we 1536 01:11:52,449 --> 01:11:48,709 really are and what our history really 1537 01:11:54,580 --> 01:11:52,459 is and we were having so many species so 1538 01:11:58,179 --> 01:11:54,590 many determinate species that were 1539 01:12:01,390 --> 01:11:58,189 saying Wow and now because of this cave 1540 01:12:04,060 --> 01:12:01,400 in the Daman sea where we have like six 1541 01:12:07,239 --> 01:12:04,070 types but up here and we're saying 1542 01:12:09,759 --> 01:12:07,249 anyway now just like now we have people 1543 01:12:12,489 --> 01:12:09,769 seven feet tall and we have people four 1544 01:12:14,589 --> 01:12:12,499 feet tall and yet we all intermix we 1545 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:14,599 interbreed we're capable we're all one 1546 01:12:20,050 --> 01:12:17,210 species maybe that's the way it's always 1547 01:12:22,270 --> 01:12:20,060 so anthropology has just been taken 1548 01:12:24,250 --> 01:12:22,280 another hit and it's gonna have to 1549 01:12:27,310 --> 01:12:24,260 revise a lot of textbooks that were 1550 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:27,320 nearly written and boy they don't like 1551 01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:29,330 doing that even though they publicly say 1552 01:12:33,550 --> 01:12:31,010 oh it's always good for science to be 1553 01:12:34,900 --> 01:12:33,560 self-correcting but those guys who get 1554 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:34,910 doctorates on theories that are no 1555 01:12:40,510 --> 01:12:37,850 longer valid I'm sure is a hit that's 1556 01:12:42,850 --> 01:12:40,520 right that's right so again the outer 1557 01:12:45,100 --> 01:12:42,860 space thing sure it always is a 1558 01:12:48,820 --> 01:12:45,110 contender it's always there as a 1559 01:12:51,060 --> 01:12:48,830 possibility but I think what we have now 1560 01:12:54,010 --> 01:12:51,070 is really in our opinion 1561 01:12:56,440 --> 01:12:54,020 multi-dimensional now now is this some 1562 01:12:58,630 --> 01:12:56,450 place one can physically visit if you 1563 01:13:00,640 --> 01:12:58,640 want you know hey I'm gonna go to the 1564 01:13:01,060 --> 01:13:00,650 17th dimension and see what's going on 1565 01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:01,070 there 1566 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:04,610 could I find a dimensional portal that's 1567 01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:06,770 a fascinating question 1568 01:13:13,140 --> 01:13:08,930 and I would suspect it would come from 1569 01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:13,150 Eugene that's something that I know 1570 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:16,970 we've wrestled with for decades maybe 1571 01:13:25,900 --> 01:13:22,970 when they first began in this field it 1572 01:13:27,810 --> 01:13:25,910 seems but it you know in it that it 1573 01:13:31,060 --> 01:13:27,820 seems like kind of a nice fairytale 1574 01:13:33,220 --> 01:13:31,070 explanation but then it also seems real 1575 01:13:35,770 --> 01:13:33,230 because of the experiences of some 1576 01:13:37,900 --> 01:13:35,780 people can we get there now here again 1577 01:13:42,540 --> 01:13:37,910 maybe travelling through outer space 1578 01:13:45,010 --> 01:13:42,550 will come down in one advanced 1579 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:45,020 civilization to be done mentally to be 1580 01:13:51,580 --> 01:13:48,010 done psychically and so many people 1581 01:13:55,140 --> 01:13:51,590 claim to have projected themselves now 1582 01:13:57,940 --> 01:13:55,150 are these extended dreams are these 1583 01:14:00,070 --> 01:13:57,950 incredible they swear they're not on 1584 01:14:03,670 --> 01:14:00,080 drugs or they're not to loose legions 1585 01:14:06,490 --> 01:14:03,680 but are their natural hallucinogens that 1586 01:14:10,180 --> 01:14:06,500 that we can create an informant within 1587 01:14:12,100 --> 01:14:10,190 our our own psyches and bodies so you 1588 01:14:15,370 --> 01:14:12,110 know it seems as though there are 1589 01:14:19,690 --> 01:14:15,380 portals I have numerous accounts that 1590 01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:19,700 and we have a couple in the book in this 1591 01:14:26,500 --> 01:14:22,970 book but you remember Jean a century ago 1592 01:14:28,660 --> 01:14:26,510 I did this strange disappearance book 1593 01:14:30,339 --> 01:14:28,670 and that is created so much 1594 01:14:33,069 --> 01:14:30,349 responsibility I was 1595 01:14:35,409 --> 01:14:33,079 back in the 60s but as people who seem 1596 01:14:39,279 --> 01:14:35,419 to find portals that were temporarily 1597 01:14:42,669 --> 01:14:39,289 there in witness scenes of the past 1598 01:14:45,790 --> 01:14:42,679 going back to pioneer days camping out 1599 01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:45,800 but yet finding there's a tribal village 1600 01:14:49,989 --> 01:14:48,050 within their site but they really can't 1601 01:14:52,839 --> 01:14:49,999 interact with it's like seeing a large 1602 01:14:55,659 --> 01:14:52,849 movie and then some people who do claim 1603 01:14:58,029 --> 01:14:55,669 to interact with what they've seen but 1604 01:15:00,699 --> 01:14:58,039 then they they see people dressed in 1605 01:15:03,699 --> 01:15:00,709 period costume they extend it I'm 1606 01:15:07,659 --> 01:15:03,709 thinking again of what what are my 1607 01:15:09,819 --> 01:15:07,669 family saw one thing discontinued even 1608 01:15:12,520 --> 01:15:09,829 when we toured that house down for the 1609 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:12,530 second time and built another one that 1610 01:15:17,439 --> 01:15:15,050 the phenomena continued it seemed to be 1611 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:17,449 just be in the environment and I can 1612 01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:21,530 remember as you know 1617 or when I come 1613 01:15:26,770 --> 01:15:25,010 home from college to visit on certain 1614 01:15:28,569 --> 01:15:26,780 nights the whole family would be up 1615 01:15:31,869 --> 01:15:28,579 looking out the window because we would 1616 01:15:34,540 --> 01:15:31,879 hear the sound of a stagecoach and 1617 01:15:36,699 --> 01:15:34,550 horses coming down the lane you know 1618 01:15:39,489 --> 01:15:36,709 just as it did before and it wasn't a 1619 01:15:42,609 --> 01:15:39,499 lame and it was a road and these things 1620 01:15:45,459 --> 01:15:42,619 are they impressed in environment are 1621 01:15:47,619 --> 01:15:45,469 there portals that sometimes open people 1622 01:15:50,589 --> 01:15:47,629 who disappear do they disappear in 1623 01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:50,599 another time these are the stuff of 1624 01:15:56,139 --> 01:15:53,090 science fiction I remember when my 1625 01:15:57,819 --> 01:15:56,149 mysteries of time and space came out one 1626 01:15:59,979 --> 01:15:57,829 reviewer said that 1627 01:16:02,169 --> 01:15:59,989 Steiger has given science fiction 1628 01:16:05,679 --> 01:16:02,179 writers enough material for 20 years 1629 01:16:07,299 --> 01:16:05,689 well they obviously took advantage of it 1630 01:16:09,790 --> 01:16:07,309 because I have so many of those stories 1631 01:16:12,790 --> 01:16:09,800 in mysteries of time and space but they 1632 01:16:14,889 --> 01:16:12,800 you know I influence the TV series the 1633 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:14,899 British TV series primeval where they 1634 01:16:19,750 --> 01:16:18,050 have these dimensional portals all over 1635 01:16:21,449 --> 01:16:19,760 the place but what I am want to ask you 1636 01:16:24,879 --> 01:16:21,459 after we get back from our break is 1637 01:16:26,919 --> 01:16:24,889 about whether these portals are taking 1638 01:16:29,770 --> 01:16:26,929 us through time or through another 1639 01:16:37,010 --> 01:16:29,780 reality interesting Brent Steiger joins 1640 01:16:44,190 --> 01:16:41,160 are you tired of searching for great 1641 01:16:48,590 --> 01:16:44,200 talk radio 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out at the gym 1724 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:20,199 for another hour and a half I just 1725 01:20:24,119 --> 01:20:22,570 couldn't believe these results my normal 1726 01:20:26,429 --> 01:20:24,129 muscle tightness and soreness after 1727 01:20:28,500 --> 01:20:26,439 working out are virtually gone don't 1728 01:20:30,719 --> 01:20:28,510 take my word for it one will way comes 1729 01:20:33,179 --> 01:20:30,729 in single servings just give it a try 1730 01:20:35,369 --> 01:20:33,189 for a health and taste sensation you'll 1731 01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:35,379 love call eight eight eight nine eight 1732 01:20:39,119 --> 01:20:37,570 eight three three two five that's eight 1733 01:20:40,979 --> 01:20:39,129 eight eight nine eight eight three three 1734 01:20:42,869 --> 01:20:40,989 two five that's eight eight eight nine 1735 01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:42,879 eight eight three three two five or 1736 01:20:50,790 --> 01:20:45,770 visit one world wacom that 1737 01:20:55,580 --> 01:20:50,800 one world wh ey calm 1738 01:20:58,189 --> 01:20:55,590 [Music] 1739 01:21:00,500 --> 01:20:58,199 this is the wrong Clark author of the 1740 01:21:07,669 --> 01:21:00,510 gospel encyclopedia other books you're 1741 01:21:10,820 --> 01:21:07,679 listening to the para cat genom Chris 1742 01:21:12,470 --> 01:21:10,830 Brad Steiger joins us he's chuckling 1743 01:21:15,379 --> 01:21:12,480 because of his inner knowledge and 1744 01:21:17,750 --> 01:21:15,389 wisdom he real encounters different 1745 01:21:19,189 --> 01:21:17,760 dimensions and otherworldly beings if 1746 01:21:21,470 --> 01:21:19,199 you hear the dogs in the background 1747 01:21:23,270 --> 01:21:21,480 they're having their own up close and 1748 01:21:25,189 --> 01:21:23,280 personal encounters but what I was 1749 01:21:27,589 --> 01:21:25,199 guessing there I guess based on you know 1750 01:21:30,649 --> 01:21:27,599 what we hear about dimensional portals 1751 01:21:32,899 --> 01:21:30,659 say the TV series primeval they were 1752 01:21:34,399 --> 01:21:32,909 going back into the past they even did a 1753 01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:34,409 remake of Flash Gordon 1754 01:21:39,919 --> 01:21:36,960 instead of taking a rocket ship with the 1755 01:21:43,879 --> 01:21:39,929 planet he went into a dimensional 1756 01:21:46,430 --> 01:21:43,889 portal that sent him to another world 1757 01:21:48,589 --> 01:21:46,440 somewhere or in the Stargate series I 1758 01:21:51,950 --> 01:21:48,599 used the Stargate to instantaneously 1759 01:21:54,290 --> 01:21:51,960 transport yourself across the galaxy so 1760 01:21:57,350 --> 01:21:54,300 what are we talking about either or both 1761 01:22:00,709 --> 01:21:57,360 time travel or alternate realities I 1762 01:22:05,180 --> 01:22:00,719 think both those are a very attractive 1763 01:22:07,550 --> 01:22:05,190 ISM scenarios that you just repeated for 1764 01:22:10,609 --> 01:22:07,560 as Jane I think very attractive to any 1765 01:22:12,950 --> 01:22:10,619 person who has a sense of whimsy and 1766 01:22:14,990 --> 01:22:12,960 fancy about him but also looking for 1767 01:22:17,810 --> 01:22:15,000 explanations for some of these 1768 01:22:20,390 --> 01:22:17,820 paranormal supernatural occurrences that 1769 01:22:23,780 --> 01:22:20,400 have happened and been recorded ever 1770 01:22:25,970 --> 01:22:23,790 since man began to etch things down and 1771 01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:25,980 tell stories around campfires these 1772 01:22:32,089 --> 01:22:28,770 stories have been current our courant 1773 01:22:34,220 --> 01:22:32,099 always they always remain so I think 1774 01:22:36,260 --> 01:22:34,230 it's both but you know that there's so 1775 01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:36,270 many of those things my grandmother gave 1776 01:22:41,209 --> 01:22:39,449 me the actual photographs a collection 1777 01:22:43,879 --> 01:22:41,219 from the award department but the 1778 01:22:46,879 --> 01:22:43,889 Matthew Brady Civil War photographs it's 1779 01:22:49,339 --> 01:22:46,889 a thick book I cherish it because it was 1780 01:22:52,490 --> 01:22:49,349 know issued by the War Department and 1781 01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:52,500 and here are these fabulous pictures of 1782 01:22:55,729 --> 01:22:54,090 Matthew Brady and I looked at them and 1783 01:22:58,129 --> 01:22:55,739 they're the generals they're the people 1784 01:23:01,310 --> 01:22:58,139 and then I looking to see what that guy 1785 01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:01,320 doesn't belong he just doesn't look like 1786 01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:05,250 he's in 1860 I mean he looks like and 1787 01:23:08,570 --> 01:23:07,050 you have that you realize you're just 1788 01:23:09,169 --> 01:23:08,580 kind of playing a little game with 1789 01:23:10,969 --> 01:23:09,179 yourself 1790 01:23:13,399 --> 01:23:10,979 then you say I wonder I wonder if some 1791 01:23:16,009 --> 01:23:13,409 people have stumbled in people have 1792 01:23:18,799 --> 01:23:16,019 written incredible accounts some of 1793 01:23:21,589 --> 01:23:18,809 which shared in books a couple we shared 1794 01:23:23,870 --> 01:23:21,599 in the current book of people who really 1795 01:23:25,910 --> 01:23:23,880 seemed to have step back and and there 1796 01:23:27,799 --> 01:23:25,920 are classics they're classics we've all 1797 01:23:30,549 --> 01:23:27,809 read them they accounts with people who 1798 01:23:34,069 --> 01:23:30,559 literally seem to go back and witness 1799 01:23:37,310 --> 01:23:34,079 especially battle scenes Normandy Beach 1800 01:23:39,770 --> 01:23:37,320 or our battles and in some of the 1801 01:23:42,049 --> 01:23:39,780 momentous battles of history where 1802 01:23:45,199 --> 01:23:42,059 they've seen pieces and and they've even 1803 01:23:47,029 --> 01:23:45,209 checked the time some had the presence 1804 01:23:49,219 --> 01:23:47,039 of mind to write down when the fighting 1805 01:23:51,109 --> 01:23:49,229 was strongest and when it lulled and 1806 01:23:53,629 --> 01:23:51,119 when it lapsed and when it peaked and 1807 01:23:56,959 --> 01:23:53,639 they match exactly the wreck of the war 1808 01:24:00,109 --> 01:23:56,969 records that are found so great events 1809 01:24:02,299 --> 01:24:00,119 may indeed leave their echoes behind so 1810 01:24:05,299 --> 01:24:02,309 I think it's both this will be a 1811 01:24:08,419 --> 01:24:05,309 situation that now physicists circuit 1812 01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:08,429 getting into it I can remember when I 1813 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:11,489 was teaching in college you know I I had 1814 01:24:16,699 --> 01:24:14,010 some of my my greatest discussions with 1815 01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:16,709 the physics teachers who were more open 1816 01:24:23,689 --> 01:24:20,489 to what I was writing about and then any 1817 01:24:25,939 --> 01:24:23,699 other departments yeah you know why not 1818 01:24:29,839 --> 01:24:25,949 give our listeners kind of a classic 1819 01:24:33,290 --> 01:24:29,849 case or to a story that typifies what 1820 01:24:35,929 --> 01:24:33,300 this is all about well we have you know 1821 01:24:39,199 --> 01:24:35,939 the classic case of the two ladies who 1822 01:24:41,870 --> 01:24:39,209 witness the court of louis xiv when they 1823 01:24:44,750 --> 01:24:41,880 were walking and but but again some of 1824 01:24:47,029 --> 01:24:44,760 the more recent ones are well a classic 1825 01:24:49,129 --> 01:24:47,039 one that we have in the book that well I 1826 01:24:51,620 --> 01:24:49,139 say it's classic I hope it will become 1827 01:24:53,569 --> 01:24:51,630 classic yet for people by the book but 1828 01:24:58,929 --> 01:24:53,579 this was told to me in a very 1829 01:25:01,969 --> 01:24:58,939 straightforward way by a radio host who 1830 01:25:03,799 --> 01:25:01,979 during commercials or after the program 1831 01:25:06,410 --> 01:25:03,809 I guess after we had discussed thing 1832 01:25:11,569 --> 01:25:06,420 told me her experience where she was 1833 01:25:13,759 --> 01:25:11,579 asked to apply we know how people in 1834 01:25:15,949 --> 01:25:13,769 media move on to different stations and 1835 01:25:19,310 --> 01:25:15,959 so forth so she this was a much larger 1836 01:25:22,459 --> 01:25:19,320 station so she had to drive away and she 1837 01:25:24,830 --> 01:25:22,469 asked a friend of hers to come along and 1838 01:25:26,509 --> 01:25:24,840 arrived at night and and they thought 1839 01:25:28,989 --> 01:25:26,519 well you know we're not gonna sleep in 1840 01:25:34,700 --> 01:25:28,999 the car so there looks like a very nice 1841 01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:34,710 motel right behind a fast you know like 1842 01:25:41,239 --> 01:25:38,130 wild to say at the Dairy Queen that type 1843 01:25:43,489 --> 01:25:41,249 of establishment so it was right behind 1844 01:25:46,459 --> 01:25:43,499 there look convenient they stayed there 1845 01:25:49,100 --> 01:25:46,469 they got up in the morning the they paid 1846 01:25:50,839 --> 01:25:49,110 their bill there was breakfast where 1847 01:25:54,649 --> 01:25:50,849 they could just have a roll and coffee 1848 01:25:58,160 --> 01:25:54,659 and the very pleasant staff they went to 1849 01:26:00,770 --> 01:25:58,170 the radio station she did a successful 1850 01:26:02,870 --> 01:26:00,780 interview she was hired and then they 1851 01:26:06,049 --> 01:26:02,880 just wanted to swing by one more time 1852 01:26:08,390 --> 01:26:06,059 and thank the kind of a gentleman who 1853 01:26:10,310 --> 01:26:08,400 checked them in so late at night and 1854 01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:10,320 didn't complain and was there when they 1855 01:26:17,989 --> 01:26:14,130 left and they go behind the ice-cream 1856 01:26:20,569 --> 01:26:17,999 fries place and there's no motel there 1857 01:26:23,660 --> 01:26:20,579 there's nothing there it's just an empty 1858 01:26:26,239 --> 01:26:23,670 lock and they say oh no we must be wrong 1859 01:26:28,580 --> 01:26:26,249 there must be two these dandy freeze 1860 01:26:31,580 --> 01:26:28,590 places they looked around they drove 1861 01:26:33,169 --> 01:26:31,590 they checked they find they asked and 1862 01:26:35,660 --> 01:26:33,179 people looked at them there's never been 1863 01:26:38,509 --> 01:26:35,670 a motel there there's never ever been a 1864 01:26:40,700 --> 01:26:38,519 motel there it's just that empty lot now 1865 01:26:43,370 --> 01:26:40,710 she's been at this radio station where 1866 01:26:45,649 --> 01:26:43,380 she interviewed me for ten years and she 1867 01:26:49,669 --> 01:26:45,659 says he still goes out every once in a 1868 01:26:52,549 --> 01:26:49,679 while trying to find that motel where 1869 01:26:55,250 --> 01:26:52,559 they stayed and were treated so nicely 1870 01:26:58,629 --> 01:26:55,260 so that's the kind of experience that we 1871 01:27:02,239 --> 01:26:58,639 hear from people I hear some from 1872 01:27:05,270 --> 01:27:02,249 military veterans who again seem to 1873 01:27:08,419 --> 01:27:05,280 during the height of battle go into 1874 01:27:12,080 --> 01:27:08,429 another time and given words of 1875 01:27:15,739 --> 01:27:12,090 inspiration by what they now conclude 1876 01:27:18,799 --> 01:27:15,749 were angelic or otherworldly beings so 1877 01:27:22,419 --> 01:27:18,809 these things happen to people and again 1878 01:27:25,700 --> 01:27:22,429 the there are those who can put off to 1879 01:27:28,489 --> 01:27:25,710 yearning departure from loved ones but 1880 01:27:32,660 --> 01:27:28,499 the ones we get were the soldier says 1881 01:27:35,990 --> 01:27:32,670 right in battle I was wounded and there 1882 01:27:38,300 --> 01:27:36,000 was my mother standing 1883 01:27:40,790 --> 01:27:38,310 giving me courage no when they get back 1884 01:27:43,610 --> 01:27:40,800 they found out she had a vivid dream 1885 01:27:47,090 --> 01:27:43,620 so dreams seem to be one way to travel 1886 01:27:49,190 --> 01:27:47,100 through time and space I have one of my 1887 01:27:52,220 --> 01:27:49,200 favorite stories in there which is a 1888 01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:52,230 little long to tell now in our present 1889 01:28:01,010 --> 01:27:56,130 book real encounters is the mother who 1890 01:28:05,930 --> 01:28:01,020 is solving for his son her son their 1891 01:28:08,900 --> 01:28:05,940 poor family he left he left because left 1892 01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:08,910 at $40 he had and said mom I'm gonna 1893 01:28:12,770 --> 01:28:10,650 take care of myself I'm going to get a 1894 01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:12,780 job and maybe I can send you money and 1895 01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:16,050 help well long story short which we 1896 01:28:22,550 --> 01:28:18,810 detailed in the book at just the right 1897 01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:22,560 pace not too long but to tell now is she 1898 01:28:28,250 --> 01:28:25,410 had a dream in which a young Hispanic 1899 01:28:31,850 --> 01:28:28,260 boy appeared to her and said your son is 1900 01:28:34,970 --> 01:28:31,860 ill he's very ill he needs you now dream 1901 01:28:37,730 --> 01:28:34,980 mind you she knew she was dreaming but 1902 01:28:41,030 --> 01:28:37,740 she cooked a little the young man's hand 1903 01:28:44,210 --> 01:28:41,040 he wasn't a little boy he was like 1819 1904 01:28:47,870 --> 01:28:44,220 and traveled to a place where it seemed 1905 01:28:50,480 --> 01:28:47,880 to be an old attic and there was her son 1906 01:28:53,210 --> 01:28:50,490 lying covered in dirty blankets with a 1907 01:28:56,750 --> 01:28:53,220 high fever and he looked and said mom 1908 01:28:59,810 --> 01:28:56,760 mom have come and then with the guidance 1909 01:29:02,030 --> 01:28:59,820 of this young Hispanic boy which they 1910 01:29:05,300 --> 01:29:02,040 told them that they had set out together 1911 01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:05,310 to earn money and the young Hispanic boy 1912 01:29:12,590 --> 01:29:09,090 had been drowned in an accident the 1913 01:29:15,110 --> 01:29:12,600 mother then was escorted back to her bed 1914 01:29:18,290 --> 01:29:15,120 by the young Hispanic boy who is 1915 01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:18,300 obviously a spirit now later that day 1916 01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:21,090 they received a call from a hospital 1917 01:29:26,900 --> 01:29:24,330 where the young boy their son had been 1918 01:29:31,310 --> 01:29:26,910 taken and they eventually went then to 1919 01:29:35,450 --> 01:29:31,320 retrieve him but to her mind - in this 1920 01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:35,460 tableau it was a crummy old addict and a 1921 01:29:42,260 --> 01:29:38,970 young boy a friend of her son who had 1922 01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:42,270 been killed in an accident led her in 1923 01:29:49,730 --> 01:29:45,690 what reality what reality because in 1924 01:29:52,370 --> 01:29:49,740 truth he wasn't in an attic he was in 1925 01:29:55,610 --> 01:29:52,380 Hospital because he had gone to a lumber 1926 01:29:59,270 --> 01:29:55,620 camp to get job he had been sick in the 1927 01:30:01,580 --> 01:29:59,280 bunkhouse and then his boss had found 1928 01:30:03,980 --> 01:30:01,590 him ill and took him to the hospital so 1929 01:30:07,070 --> 01:30:03,990 in reality he was in the hospital in 1930 01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:07,080 this alternate reality he was in a 1931 01:30:13,970 --> 01:30:10,890 crummy miserable attic but again mother 1932 01:30:17,030 --> 01:30:13,980 reached him through this other reality 1933 01:30:19,580 --> 01:30:17,040 or alternate reality or the dream world 1934 01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:19,590 what are dreams really how can we really 1935 01:30:22,940 --> 01:30:22,290 participate in another world through our 1936 01:30:26,180 --> 01:30:22,950 dreams 1937 01:30:28,490 --> 01:30:26,190 we'll get into more reality changes or 1938 01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:28,500 alterations in a moment right stagger 1939 01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:39,930 joins Jean and Kris you're in the GZ and 1940 01:30:46,580 --> 01:30:42,330 Radio Network providing the world with 1941 01:30:49,940 --> 01:30:46,590 hard-hitting talk radio G C and great 1942 01:30:51,110 --> 01:30:49,950 talk 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dimensions and otherworldly beings you 2053 01:35:15,050 --> 01:35:13,530 know there's a TV show there was a 2054 01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:15,060 British version an American version 2055 01:35:20,990 --> 01:35:17,970 called life on Mars where this police 2056 01:35:24,020 --> 01:35:21,000 detective is shot and he's in a coma and 2057 01:35:27,620 --> 01:35:24,030 then suddenly he's living in the 1970s 2058 01:35:31,190 --> 01:35:27,630 do you remember that I did not see it 2059 01:35:32,930 --> 01:35:31,200 but I remember reading about it and the 2060 01:35:34,910 --> 01:35:32,940 ending is strange because in the 2061 01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:34,920 American TV series which lasted one 2062 01:35:39,110 --> 01:35:37,290 season it ends up that he is in 2063 01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:39,120 suspended animation because he and his 2064 01:35:44,600 --> 01:35:42,810 crew are going to Mars and he wakes up 2065 01:35:47,180 --> 01:35:44,610 when it's over it was rather a lame 2066 01:35:49,670 --> 01:35:47,190 ending but the concept is interesting 2067 01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:49,680 because it's not unusual where somebody 2068 01:35:57,140 --> 01:35:53,930 is for some reason unconscious in a coma 2069 01:36:00,440 --> 01:35:57,150 whatever and lives an entire life that 2070 01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:00,450 is to him or her just as real right 2071 01:36:04,010 --> 01:36:02,610 right right yeah I think that's a 2072 01:36:06,710 --> 01:36:04,020 fascinating concept 2073 01:36:09,470 --> 01:36:06,720 the reason and there have been a number 2074 01:36:11,540 --> 01:36:09,480 of TV shows that have kind of flirted 2075 01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:11,550 with that the reason they have they 2076 01:36:17,420 --> 01:36:14,850 lousy ending I think is that no one 2077 01:36:20,270 --> 01:36:17,430 really has come up with a suitable 2078 01:36:23,030 --> 01:36:20,280 ending how do you extend it do you 2079 01:36:25,940 --> 01:36:23,040 extend it do they live there forever 2080 01:36:29,660 --> 01:36:25,950 well let me let me make this point some 2081 01:36:31,700 --> 01:36:29,670 of the experiences that we share an 2082 01:36:35,900 --> 01:36:31,710 ideal with it and work through with 2083 01:36:39,110 --> 01:36:35,910 people when it begins they say that they 2084 01:36:42,979 --> 01:36:39,120 have gone to other worlds they've been 2085 01:36:46,130 --> 01:36:42,989 taken to other worlds as we discuss that 2086 01:36:49,370 --> 01:36:46,140 as we proceed maybe they're willing to 2087 01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:49,380 entertain that was a vision or was a 2088 01:36:56,090 --> 01:36:53,370 dream but the interesting thing I found 2089 01:36:59,030 --> 01:36:56,100 and we found this really from the 2090 01:37:00,950 --> 01:36:59,040 beginning with a pattern profile I mean 2091 01:37:04,670 --> 01:37:00,960 back in the 60s when we're really 2092 01:37:10,030 --> 01:37:04,680 getting into UFO research we find that 2093 01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:10,040 after the what I call alerting incident 2094 01:37:17,630 --> 01:37:14,970 the person experiences poltergeist 2095 01:37:19,790 --> 01:37:17,640 phenomena mate excuse me the person may 2096 01:37:22,460 --> 01:37:19,800 experience poltergeist phenomena in the 2097 01:37:24,940 --> 01:37:22,470 house that means you know rattling books 2098 01:37:29,210 --> 01:37:24,950 lying ourselves and that type of thing 2099 01:37:32,750 --> 01:37:29,220 but they begin to have spontaneous 2100 01:37:37,220 --> 01:37:32,760 out-of-body experiences they begin to 2101 01:37:39,350 --> 01:37:37,230 have visionary experiences they began in 2102 01:37:41,930 --> 01:37:39,360 other words I'll just cut a chart to say 2103 01:37:43,610 --> 01:37:41,940 paranormal experiences which they swear 2104 01:37:45,500 --> 01:37:43,620 they didn't have before or they weren't 2105 01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:45,510 aware that they were having them before 2106 01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:47,970 if you will but at any rate these 2107 01:37:55,040 --> 01:37:50,370 incidents these epiphanies these 2108 01:37:59,240 --> 01:37:55,050 sightings of a of an angel an alien a 2109 01:38:01,940 --> 01:37:59,250 ghost whatever has that activating the 2110 01:38:07,430 --> 01:38:01,950 activating incident once that vision is 2111 01:38:09,830 --> 01:38:07,440 seen and the times most presently in the 2112 01:38:12,650 --> 01:38:09,840 research indicates that many people see 2113 01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:12,660 them at five many people see them at 2114 01:38:19,490 --> 01:38:15,930 eleven many people have them around 14 2115 01:38:21,860 --> 01:38:19,500 and then of course it depends upon the 2116 01:38:24,380 --> 01:38:21,870 life path of the individual but those 2117 01:38:26,630 --> 01:38:24,390 are very common you know throughout we 2118 01:38:29,660 --> 01:38:26,640 can say literally the world because of 2119 01:38:32,270 --> 01:38:29,670 our questionnaire so again it seems to 2120 01:38:34,700 --> 01:38:32,280 be an activating incident wherever or 2121 01:38:36,180 --> 01:38:34,710 whatever they believe really happens to 2122 01:38:39,750 --> 01:38:36,190 them it continues 2123 01:38:42,330 --> 01:38:39,760 continues in ways which fortunately the 2124 01:38:43,830 --> 01:38:42,340 majority people find manageable in other 2125 01:38:45,330 --> 01:38:43,840 words they don't have an out-of-body 2126 01:38:47,610 --> 01:38:45,340 experience when they're driving their 2127 01:38:50,850 --> 01:38:47,620 car in the freeway but they'll have them 2128 01:38:53,430 --> 01:38:50,860 we hope we hope they'll have them that 2129 01:38:55,860 --> 01:38:53,440 reflective moments well you know I don't 2130 01:38:57,840 --> 01:38:55,870 want to give a specific name but I 2131 01:39:02,100 --> 01:38:57,850 talked to somebody the other day you had 2132 01:39:03,450 --> 01:39:02,110 an instance where he took a road trip 2133 01:39:06,810 --> 01:39:03,460 that should have taken what eight or 2134 01:39:10,110 --> 01:39:06,820 nine hours and two maybe three hours a 2135 01:39:13,590 --> 01:39:10,120 real time displacement kind of situation 2136 01:39:16,110 --> 01:39:13,600 and of course if we remember our former 2137 01:39:18,420 --> 01:39:16,120 co-host David B atony they come on the 2138 01:39:20,580 --> 01:39:18,430 show with one of his friends talking 2139 01:39:22,020 --> 01:39:20,590 about a trip he took from Boston in New 2140 01:39:24,330 --> 01:39:22,030 York City which takes about four and a 2141 01:39:25,770 --> 01:39:24,340 half hours and you know they drove 2142 01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:25,780 through rush hour and everything and 2143 01:39:34,500 --> 01:39:28,930 they got to Queens in New York City in 2144 01:39:35,670 --> 01:39:34,510 maybe two hours I've had a case of two 2145 01:39:38,370 --> 01:39:35,680 like that as well 2146 01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:38,380 I was gonna ask though Brad what what 2147 01:39:45,930 --> 01:39:42,810 role does actual location play I seem to 2148 01:39:48,990 --> 01:39:45,940 kind of have a hunch that there there 2149 01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:49,000 are clusters of of events that that seem 2150 01:39:53,670 --> 01:39:51,010 to cluster around specific locations 2151 01:39:58,590 --> 01:39:53,680 where for lack of a better term the veil 2152 01:40:01,230 --> 01:39:58,600 is thin yeah yeah and and I think you 2153 01:40:04,290 --> 01:40:01,240 know I'm always reluctant to start 2154 01:40:07,140 --> 01:40:04,300 taking them because again planting that 2155 01:40:11,300 --> 01:40:07,150 seed but when we hear and we received 2156 01:40:15,270 --> 01:40:11,310 reports from in his areas and certainly 2157 01:40:17,130 --> 01:40:15,280 if I understand exactly where you live 2158 01:40:19,140 --> 01:40:17,140 Chris I think you're in an area where 2159 01:40:22,100 --> 01:40:19,150 we're probably the veil is pretty thin 2160 01:40:26,610 --> 01:40:22,110 but but we have little little tiny 2161 01:40:29,370 --> 01:40:26,620 dimensional things and I think the 2162 01:40:32,130 --> 01:40:29,380 forested regions you know are filled 2163 01:40:35,220 --> 01:40:32,140 with them I think that and then when the 2164 01:40:37,980 --> 01:40:35,230 forests are chopped down mowed down and 2165 01:40:40,770 --> 01:40:37,990 cities are built those little pockets 2166 01:40:44,820 --> 01:40:40,780 remain and that's why some houses will 2167 01:40:47,610 --> 01:40:44,830 be haunted not by entities or spirits 2168 01:40:49,589 --> 01:40:47,620 but by a quite a different phenomena 2169 01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:49,599 where again those little 2170 01:40:54,990 --> 01:40:52,810 valleys and openings and they're just an 2171 01:40:57,450 --> 01:40:55,000 extraordinary accounts that we see from 2172 01:41:00,810 --> 01:40:57,460 just you know regular people I actually 2173 01:41:02,910 --> 01:41:00,820 could and know one of the letters that 2174 01:41:07,979 --> 01:41:02,920 we received the most you know start with 2175 01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:07,989 thank God I'm not alone yeah and you 2176 01:41:12,540 --> 01:41:10,210 know we recognize that feeling don't we 2177 01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:12,550 I mean this is yeah absolutely it's 2178 01:41:15,419 --> 01:41:13,810 always good to have someone to share 2179 01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:15,429 these experiences with I was 2180 01:41:19,350 --> 01:41:17,170 particularly struck by the chapter on 2181 01:41:23,069 --> 01:41:19,360 the wee folk and how you just list 2182 01:41:26,220 --> 01:41:23,079 example after example of of areas that 2183 01:41:30,030 --> 01:41:26,230 are you know kind of held as a special 2184 01:41:32,939 --> 01:41:30,040 place for the Fae ones let's say the 2185 01:41:34,500 --> 01:41:32,949 example I think in Finland where they 2186 01:41:36,450 --> 01:41:34,510 were trying to expand the factory the 2187 01:41:38,609 --> 01:41:36,460 other example of putting up the 2188 01:41:40,350 --> 01:41:38,619 telephone poles and and the people said 2189 01:41:41,609 --> 01:41:40,360 you can't put a pole right there where 2190 01:41:44,669 --> 01:41:41,619 you're planning on putting it because 2191 01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:44,679 they won't allow it and I think that 2192 01:41:50,669 --> 01:41:48,610 this location specificity can come into 2193 01:41:53,370 --> 01:41:50,679 play I think in in this sense 2194 01:41:55,830 --> 01:41:53,380 along with someone having that 2195 01:41:59,520 --> 01:41:55,840 breakthrough experience that then opens 2196 01:42:04,050 --> 01:41:59,530 them up to two other experiences it's 2197 01:42:06,390 --> 01:42:04,060 you know in linear time exactly I I'm 2198 01:42:09,540 --> 01:42:06,400 very much very much believe that knows 2199 01:42:15,060 --> 01:42:09,550 me readers as well I'm always reluctant 2200 01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:15,070 to be too specific I mean no recount for 2201 01:42:20,879 --> 01:42:18,250 example in the book we recount incidents 2202 01:42:23,129 --> 01:42:20,889 of missing time and people who drove for 2203 01:42:25,410 --> 01:42:23,139 hours and this is only a drone don't 2204 01:42:28,470 --> 01:42:25,420 driven half an hour and so forth but I'm 2205 01:42:30,959 --> 01:42:28,480 very reluctant to put the exact location 2206 01:42:33,750 --> 01:42:30,969 because you know Lord Lord knows how 2207 01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:33,760 suggestible you know some people are we 2208 01:42:40,890 --> 01:42:36,010 all are you know and there if someone is 2209 01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:40,900 a mystical bent or they've been alerted 2210 01:42:46,260 --> 01:42:44,290 by a television program that tells them 2211 01:42:48,330 --> 01:42:46,270 you know ghosts are everywhere and so 2212 01:42:51,359 --> 01:42:48,340 forth which they are but there's a way 2213 01:42:54,089 --> 01:42:51,369 of approaching and dealing with this so 2214 01:42:56,490 --> 01:42:54,099 I know how suggestible it can be you 2215 01:43:00,060 --> 01:42:56,500 know in a dark and rainy night type of 2216 01:43:02,150 --> 01:43:00,070 thing and I don't want to - you know 2217 01:43:04,310 --> 01:43:02,160 inadvertently cause 2218 01:43:07,550 --> 01:43:04,320 stress to some people because you know I 2219 01:43:08,710 --> 01:43:07,560 know from working with when we were 2220 01:43:12,650 --> 01:43:08,720 ambitiously 2221 01:43:14,990 --> 01:43:12,660 going to haunted houses which in many 2222 01:43:17,510 --> 01:43:15,000 cases were really haunted people as it 2223 01:43:19,670 --> 01:43:17,520 would turn out we were fortunate in 2224 01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:19,680 those days that there weren't all the 2225 01:43:23,990 --> 01:43:22,050 television shows you know smoking how to 2226 01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:24,000 behave in a haunted house and how to act 2227 01:43:29,450 --> 01:43:26,610 in a haunted house in fact you couldn't 2228 01:43:31,550 --> 01:43:29,460 get this subject on television I 2229 01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:31,560 remember in the early days you know 2230 01:43:36,470 --> 01:43:33,570 going to promote a book I mean just 2231 01:43:38,870 --> 01:43:36,480 trying to find a radio show trying to 2232 01:43:41,150 --> 01:43:38,880 find for television was impossible they 2233 01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:41,160 wouldn't get you on because you were you 2234 01:43:45,950 --> 01:43:44,130 were implanting belief structures and 2235 01:43:49,850 --> 01:43:45,960 people and they couldn't do that that's 2236 01:43:50,450 --> 01:43:49,860 what cable TV does now they use it on 2237 01:43:53,750 --> 01:43:50,460 people 2238 01:43:56,150 --> 01:43:53,760 yes getting in those days I say the only 2239 01:43:58,730 --> 01:43:56,160 one was ABC that was the only one that 2240 01:44:02,150 --> 01:43:58,740 would let us even discuss the topic the 2241 01:44:04,330 --> 01:44:02,160 others wouldn't so again now today what 2242 01:44:08,420 --> 01:44:04,340 do we have we have cable television 2243 01:44:11,630 --> 01:44:08,430 implanting all kinds of approaches and 2244 01:44:13,930 --> 01:44:11,640 and it appears you know so so easy well 2245 01:44:17,270 --> 01:44:13,940 well it's not you know if you're truly 2246 01:44:19,100 --> 01:44:17,280 finding a haunting phenomena you may sit 2247 01:44:22,370 --> 01:44:19,110 there for several nights before you see 2248 01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:22,380 it or you know you may be fortunate but 2249 01:44:26,870 --> 01:44:24,930 I say in those days most often we were 2250 01:44:29,240 --> 01:44:26,880 brought to a place by police officers 2251 01:44:31,460 --> 01:44:29,250 who had found something they literally 2252 01:44:33,830 --> 01:44:31,470 could not explain in the police manuals 2253 01:44:36,110 --> 01:44:33,840 they had investigated they'd been there 2254 01:44:38,270 --> 01:44:36,120 many nights they'd witness a phenomena 2255 01:44:41,030 --> 01:44:38,280 it was really quite a different thing 2256 01:44:44,120 --> 01:44:41,040 but I saw how some of the police 2257 01:44:46,490 --> 01:44:44,130 officers in one case were a police 2258 01:44:48,290 --> 01:44:46,500 officer hood work with us in many cases 2259 01:44:50,540 --> 01:44:48,300 couldn't make it because he had to be 2260 01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:50,550 the eye in the sky he was also a pilot 2261 01:44:55,340 --> 01:44:52,770 so he had to have that duty that night 2262 01:44:58,460 --> 01:44:55,350 and he asked a friend to sit in who was 2263 01:45:01,460 --> 01:44:58,470 a real skeptic a real doubter maybe he 2264 01:45:03,740 --> 01:45:01,470 did it out of our meanest ancestors I've 2265 01:45:05,810 --> 01:45:03,750 always wondered why he selected this guy 2266 01:45:07,550 --> 01:45:05,820 we have to find out what happened to 2267 01:45:10,310 --> 01:45:07,560 this skeptic what happened to this guy 2268 01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:10,320 in our next segment Brice Tiger and 2269 01:45:14,480 --> 01:45:12,570 sherry Hanson Steiger wrote real 2270 01:45:15,150 --> 01:45:14,490 encounters different dimensions in 2271 01:45:17,450 --> 01:45:15,160 otherworldly 2272 01:45:19,770 --> 01:45:17,460 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know giving me the needle about 2342 01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:25,420 you know you really business or nail 2343 01:48:31,050 --> 01:48:28,210 care it's a spooky house so what this 2344 01:48:33,810 --> 01:48:31,060 was really a remarkable haunting because 2345 01:48:36,750 --> 01:48:33,820 it you could it was almost on demand at 2346 01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:36,760 a particular time a night a ghostly 2347 01:48:42,420 --> 01:48:39,730 figure with a first it be just swirling 2348 01:48:45,750 --> 01:48:42,430 lights you know and then it would form 2349 01:48:49,140 --> 01:48:45,760 the shape of a man a man would walk this 2350 01:48:52,740 --> 01:48:49,150 had been a very wealthy estate he would 2351 01:48:56,550 --> 01:48:52,750 walk from the stables to the house now 2352 01:48:59,160 --> 01:48:56,560 when the two daughters are still living 2353 01:49:00,900 --> 01:48:59,170 they were taken to Retirement Center 2354 01:49:03,450 --> 01:49:00,910 because they could no longer take care 2355 01:49:06,630 --> 01:49:03,460 of themselves that the police would hear 2356 01:49:08,790 --> 01:49:06,640 and watch this go our friend policemen 2357 01:49:11,100 --> 01:49:08,800 who've read this again and again and 2358 01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:11,110 then he would hear the ladies all daddy 2359 01:49:15,330 --> 01:49:13,570 daddy is so good to see you are you 2360 01:49:17,580 --> 01:49:15,340 coming for dinner and so forth they know 2361 01:49:19,470 --> 01:49:17,590 night after night so on this particular 2362 01:49:21,690 --> 01:49:19,480 night when he could not make it when he 2363 01:49:25,710 --> 01:49:21,700 was the I in the spy the skeptic is with 2364 01:49:28,500 --> 01:49:25,720 me has been needling me all day and then 2365 01:49:31,710 --> 01:49:28,510 as we're sitting there in my station 2366 01:49:34,380 --> 01:49:31,720 wagon waiting for the phenomena to begin 2367 01:49:36,480 --> 01:49:34,390 he sees first you know what he thinks 2368 01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:36,490 are a lot of fireflies he says what are 2369 01:49:42,780 --> 01:49:39,010 the odds I fooling around then he sees 2370 01:49:46,110 --> 01:49:42,790 that it's forming the shape of a man and 2371 01:49:48,270 --> 01:49:46,120 the man is walking toward us and he says 2372 01:49:50,220 --> 01:49:48,280 do you see that do you see that and I 2373 01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:50,230 couldn't resist I said I also see 2374 01:49:54,810 --> 01:49:52,090 anything what do you mean well he 2375 01:49:57,420 --> 01:49:54,820 started to reach finally for his police 2376 01:49:59,280 --> 01:49:57,430 special and that's what I said okay okay 2377 01:50:01,800 --> 01:49:59,290 I see it too 2378 01:50:03,270 --> 01:50:01,810 that's what we're talking about that's 2379 01:50:06,150 --> 01:50:03,280 why I'm here 2380 01:50:09,030 --> 01:50:06,160 that's what very investigating so don't 2381 01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:09,040 shoot it but I got up again another 2382 01:50:14,970 --> 01:50:11,650 impulse I couldn't resist is I put my 2383 01:50:16,850 --> 01:50:14,980 hand into the ghost I just I didn't know 2384 01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:16,860 if I'd be zapped to another dimension 2385 01:50:22,530 --> 01:50:19,330 but it was kind of like putting her hand 2386 01:50:26,340 --> 01:50:22,540 you know when dry ice is releasing it's 2387 01:50:28,770 --> 01:50:26,350 it's chill and then watched it continued 2388 01:50:30,660 --> 01:50:28,780 to walk and go into the house that was 2389 01:50:33,570 --> 01:50:30,670 in the university town I think 2390 01:50:36,330 --> 01:50:33,580 practically every professor on the staff 2391 01:50:39,300 --> 01:50:36,340 went there after we had released the 2392 01:50:41,820 --> 01:50:39,310 research to observe it and it was seen 2393 01:50:45,150 --> 01:50:41,830 by that many people now unfortunately 2394 01:50:49,170 --> 01:50:45,160 now it was torn down for the proverbial 2395 01:50:54,510 --> 01:50:49,180 parking lot as the city expanded but 2396 01:50:57,780 --> 01:50:54,520 there again the fear he had when he 2397 01:51:02,640 --> 01:50:57,790 couldn't deal with it was replicated a 2398 01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:02,650 year later when on Halloween I went down 2399 01:51:07,860 --> 01:51:05,530 to observe it with a number of the kind 2400 01:51:09,600 --> 01:51:07,870 of a policeman's ball and the number of 2401 01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:09,610 the policeman who had seen it were 2402 01:51:14,730 --> 01:51:12,130 discussing it and again some skeptics 2403 01:51:16,350 --> 01:51:14,740 said that they did not believe it and we 2404 01:51:18,780 --> 01:51:16,360 said well the house had not yet been 2405 01:51:20,280 --> 01:51:18,790 torn down go out and see for yourselves 2406 01:51:22,680 --> 01:51:20,290 and they laughed and laughed and they 2407 01:51:25,650 --> 01:51:22,690 came back honest-to-god they came back 2408 01:51:28,020 --> 01:51:25,660 in an hour and a half just white just 2409 01:51:30,090 --> 01:51:28,030 whites and they they fired at it and 2410 01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:30,100 just burned rubber getting on there they 2411 01:51:36,510 --> 01:51:33,250 were so frightened so I think the the 2412 01:51:41,550 --> 01:51:36,520 true skeptic is the one that you know 2413 01:51:44,700 --> 01:51:41,560 can suffer very unpleasant reactions and 2414 01:51:48,060 --> 01:51:44,710 responses when he/she encounters 2415 01:51:50,640 --> 01:51:48,070 something that he or she simply believed 2416 01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:50,650 could not be well that kind of leads me 2417 01:51:55,710 --> 01:51:53,290 to an interesting question by ufology 2418 01:51:58,680 --> 01:51:55,720 one of our our posters that form dr. 2419 01:52:00,540 --> 01:51:58,690 Perik ass calm and Randall ass having 2420 01:52:02,430 --> 01:52:00,550 read a number of your books and listen 2421 01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:02,440 to interviews with you on the radio I'm 2422 01:52:05,700 --> 01:52:04,090 amazed at how many paranormal 2423 01:52:07,980 --> 01:52:05,710 experiences you claimed to have had 2424 01:52:09,780 --> 01:52:07,990 people like amateur astronomers will 2425 01:52:12,630 --> 01:52:09,790 watch this guy for years and never see 2426 01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:12,640 anything unusual so it's not simply a 2427 01:52:16,350 --> 01:52:14,650 matter of getting out looking do you 2428 01:52:18,270 --> 01:52:16,360 feel that there is any reason other than 2429 01:52:20,190 --> 01:52:18,280 pure luck why you seem to have beaten 2430 01:52:22,790 --> 01:52:20,200 the odds when it comes to the number of 2431 01:52:25,830 --> 01:52:22,800 experiences that you personally had and 2432 01:52:28,950 --> 01:52:25,840 other people - including myself have had 2433 01:52:30,990 --> 01:52:28,960 well yeah I think I answered that a 2434 01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:31,000 little bit at the beginning but I'll 2435 01:52:38,970 --> 01:52:36,090 answer it again only recently have 2436 01:52:41,190 --> 01:52:38,980 sherry and I this suddenly you know the 2437 01:52:44,370 --> 01:52:41,200 light bulb went off over her head and 2438 01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:44,380 said you know we've never wanted to feel 2439 01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:45,130 special 2440 01:52:49,470 --> 01:52:47,050 we've never wanted to feel you know that 2441 01:52:52,140 --> 01:52:49,480 we have great powers and so forth and we 2442 01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:52,150 don't feel that way now but there must 2443 01:52:58,920 --> 01:52:54,130 have been something in us whether its 2444 01:53:01,260 --> 01:52:58,930 genetic or whatever that predisposed us 2445 01:53:04,020 --> 01:53:01,270 predisposed us to through this reality 2446 01:53:06,120 --> 01:53:04,030 because again looking back you know I 2447 01:53:09,930 --> 01:53:06,130 grew up in this house seeing the figures 2448 01:53:12,540 --> 01:53:09,940 moving about then the activating 2449 01:53:17,670 --> 01:53:12,550 incident for me really came when I was 2450 01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:17,680 five when I saw what I would call in my 2451 01:53:24,390 --> 01:53:21,610 culture Scandinavian Anisa which would 2452 01:53:24,930 --> 01:53:24,400 be no window answer looking in the 2453 01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:24,940 window 2454 01:53:30,900 --> 01:53:28,210 exactly I've told you the story and that 2455 01:53:36,930 --> 01:53:30,910 was probably the activating incident for 2456 01:53:39,480 --> 01:53:36,940 me and I have maintained a contact with 2457 01:53:42,330 --> 01:53:39,490 entity who continues to do little 2458 01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:42,340 mischievous things but never cruel never 2459 01:53:48,420 --> 01:53:46,090 mean but I think it's just always led me 2460 01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:48,430 on because I want to see him again as 2461 01:53:53,700 --> 01:53:51,250 clearly as I saw him that night so there 2462 01:53:56,190 --> 01:53:53,710 seems to be an activating incident the 2463 01:53:58,230 --> 01:53:56,200 same rigor Hut like a trigger the same 2464 01:54:01,590 --> 01:53:58,240 thing occurred to Sherry when she was 2465 01:54:06,450 --> 01:54:01,600 very very young where she I mean yeah 2466 01:54:10,770 --> 01:54:06,460 okay and that's why we are predisposed 2467 01:54:13,170 --> 01:54:10,780 and and again I I never looked at I 2468 01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:13,180 don't believe in luck I believe that you 2469 01:54:17,720 --> 01:54:14,890 know that we may create our own reality 2470 01:54:22,470 --> 01:54:17,730 and destiny in that regard 2471 01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:22,480 but certainly with the ghost hunting and 2472 01:54:27,570 --> 01:54:24,850 so forth and I hate that term but the 2473 01:54:30,780 --> 01:54:27,580 post is s decay 2474 01:54:33,090 --> 01:54:30,790 always you know the the manifestations 2475 01:54:35,850 --> 01:54:33,100 and so forth there were a couple times 2476 01:54:37,710 --> 01:54:35,860 and Jean you know the story of when I 2477 01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:37,720 went in the house where the several 2478 01:54:41,820 --> 01:54:39,970 murders had taken place and challenged 2479 01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:41,830 the entity and that knocked the door 2480 01:54:46,770 --> 01:54:43,930 blew the door right off the hinges and 2481 01:54:49,950 --> 01:54:46,780 lifted all of us in the air that I 2482 01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:49,960 revised my attitude that they're all 2483 01:54:56,550 --> 01:54:53,530 nice for the psychic residue I had 2484 01:54:58,770 --> 01:54:56,560 explained to my satisfaction that 2485 01:55:01,140 --> 01:54:58,780 hauntings were simply psychic residue 2486 01:55:03,660 --> 01:55:01,150 and Preston environment and then had be 2487 01:55:07,530 --> 01:55:03,670 activated by people of the proper 2488 01:55:12,750 --> 01:55:07,540 psychic affinity but certainly I suppose 2489 01:55:15,510 --> 01:55:12,760 it you know some of us are born this way 2490 01:55:18,270 --> 01:55:15,520 some of us are born with it and as I 2491 01:55:20,520 --> 01:55:18,280 said I've resisted ever writing about 2492 01:55:23,220 --> 01:55:20,530 this my first books you won't find a 2493 01:55:25,620 --> 01:55:23,230 single comment about but about the time 2494 01:55:27,570 --> 01:55:25,630 when defined fire revelation a divine 2495 01:55:30,570 --> 01:55:27,580 fire when the entity appeared and gave 2496 01:55:33,090 --> 01:55:30,580 me the entire contents of the book yeah 2497 01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:33,100 by that time I'd begun to accept that 2498 01:55:39,210 --> 01:55:36,970 maybe I had friends on the other 2499 01:55:40,380 --> 01:55:39,220 dimension let me ask you a fast question 2500 01:55:43,350 --> 01:55:40,390 here and we'll have to continue with the 2501 01:55:45,420 --> 01:55:43,360 answer with our next segment that is is 2502 01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:45,430 this something you could learn is this 2503 01:55:50,190 --> 01:55:48,490 an ability we all have but remains 2504 01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:50,200 dormant because we don't have a 2505 01:55:55,800 --> 01:55:52,450 triggering mechanism is the triggering 2506 01:55:57,630 --> 01:55:55,810 mechanism external excellent question 2507 01:55:59,850 --> 01:55:57,640 not even we're going to answer on the 2508 01:56:01,260 --> 01:55:59,860 other side why don't you just start it 2509 01:56:02,550 --> 01:56:01,270 here for about a minute or minute and a 2510 01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:02,560 half and then we'll pick up on it glad 2511 01:56:07,890 --> 01:56:05,170 please I think it can be taught to a 2512 01:56:10,380 --> 01:56:07,900 degree the same way I taught creative 2513 01:56:14,010 --> 01:56:10,390 writing three years and I said no I 2514 01:56:15,930 --> 01:56:14,020 admitted that this was in many ways you 2515 01:56:18,030 --> 01:56:15,940 know a scam because you can't really 2516 01:56:20,130 --> 01:56:18,040 teach creativity but you can teach 2517 01:56:23,070 --> 01:56:20,140 people how to write better you can teach 2518 01:56:25,620 --> 01:56:23,080 people how to punctuate and so forth but 2519 01:56:27,990 --> 01:56:25,630 the creativity I think you know and I 2520 01:56:30,930 --> 01:56:28,000 think it's something innate I think it's 2521 01:56:34,020 --> 01:56:30,940 something that you know whether it is 2522 01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:34,030 just the way the genes form of the brain 2523 01:56:40,499 --> 01:56:36,490 comes together or experiences in the 2524 01:56:44,819 --> 01:56:40,509 womb whatever but again it seems to be 2525 01:56:47,399 --> 01:56:44,829 it seems to be because as I've more 2526 01:56:52,199 --> 01:56:47,409 open-minded they look at members of my 2527 01:56:55,529 --> 01:56:52,209 family and my my predecessors in the 2528 01:56:58,469 --> 01:56:55,539 family line I see and now having contact 2529 01:57:02,159 --> 01:56:58,479 with cousins that I have never ever met 2530 01:57:04,859 --> 01:57:02,169 and finding that they've been reading my 2531 01:57:07,109 --> 01:57:04,869 books because and now the identifying 2532 01:57:10,829 --> 01:57:07,119 themselves as the daughter of a cousin 2533 01:57:13,619 --> 01:57:10,839 or a 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loophole forever go to privacy 2644 02:01:44,500 --> 02:01:42,170 lockdown calm we'd like to hear from you 2645 02:01:47,770 --> 02:01:44,510 if you have a comment or question about 2646 02:01:49,270 --> 02:01:47,780 the para cast sent it to news at the 2647 02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:49,280 para cast com 2648 02:01:54,729 --> 02:01:52,610 that's news at the para cast calm and 2649 02:01:58,080 --> 02:01:54,739 don't forget to visit our famous para 2650 02:02:02,260 --> 02:01:58,090 cast community forums at forum dot the 2651 02:02:04,089 --> 02:02:02,270 podcast.com here we go with brights 2652 02:02:05,470 --> 02:02:04,099 tiger the book is really encounters 2653 02:02:08,260 --> 02:02:05,480 different dimensions and otherworldly 2654 02:02:11,620 --> 02:02:08,270 beings co-authored with Sheri Hansen 2655 02:02:13,359 --> 02:02:11,630 Steiger and in our previous segment you 2656 02:02:15,810 --> 02:02:13,369 were mentioning that a lot of the people 2657 02:02:18,790 --> 02:02:15,820 who have these abilities these 2658 02:02:21,729 --> 02:02:18,800 extrasensory capabilities they may be 2659 02:02:24,129 --> 02:02:21,739 genetic now over the years I've been 2660 02:02:26,620 --> 02:02:24,139 interested in this subject extensively 2661 02:02:28,750 --> 02:02:26,630 but if I go to my immediate family well 2662 02:02:32,070 --> 02:02:28,760 my son is kind of sort of interested 2663 02:02:34,689 --> 02:02:32,080 from time to time but none of the other 2664 02:02:37,209 --> 02:02:34,699 immediate relatives have any interests 2665 02:02:39,729 --> 02:02:37,219 whatever I mean my late brother didn't 2666 02:02:41,680 --> 02:02:39,739 admit to anything although I got 2667 02:02:43,689 --> 02:02:41,690 interested in UFOs because he left a 2668 02:02:46,149 --> 02:02:43,699 book by major Donald Kehoe on his coffee 2669 02:02:49,300 --> 02:02:46,159 table but he never indicated to me he 2670 02:02:51,700 --> 02:02:49,310 was interested cousins no I have one 2671 02:02:53,500 --> 02:02:51,710 cousin who didn't like me and I learned 2672 02:02:56,950 --> 02:02:53,510 years later why it's because I was 2673 02:03:00,490 --> 02:02:56,960 interested in UFOs my father my mother 2674 02:03:02,830 --> 02:03:00,500 nobody strange or maybe they didn't made 2675 02:03:06,100 --> 02:03:02,840 it maybe that's the problem right right 2676 02:03:08,859 --> 02:03:06,110 yeah I think an interesting thing I was 2677 02:03:12,850 --> 02:03:08,869 reflecting on this growing up in World 2678 02:03:15,370 --> 02:03:12,860 War two and having uncles overseas and 2679 02:03:18,520 --> 02:03:15,380 those days you know you didn't hear from 2680 02:03:21,160 --> 02:03:18,530 your loved ones for months you had no 2681 02:03:24,100 --> 02:03:21,170 idea where they were and that's that's 2682 02:03:27,400 --> 02:03:24,110 when I saw and you know I don't know why 2683 02:03:31,600 --> 02:03:27,410 I didn't relive this earlier but I do 2684 02:03:35,080 --> 02:03:31,610 remember my mother my grandmother and my 2685 02:03:37,870 --> 02:03:35,090 hands working the table you know 2686 02:03:40,950 --> 02:03:37,880 wrapping the table to try to find out 2687 02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:40,960 where my uncle was and my uncle was safe 2688 02:03:48,690 --> 02:03:46,010 and I guess not my mother she well maybe 2689 02:03:54,160 --> 02:03:48,700 she was a medium but certainly not 2690 02:03:57,940 --> 02:03:54,170 declared but she had she had appearances 2691 02:04:00,310 --> 02:03:57,950 he had the visions I'm just like some of 2692 02:04:02,500 --> 02:04:00,320 these things they don't connect until 2693 02:04:07,450 --> 02:04:02,510 later when you look but she would 2694 02:04:09,430 --> 02:04:07,460 receive advice from the lady and telling 2695 02:04:11,380 --> 02:04:09,440 dad you know that the storm might be 2696 02:04:15,580 --> 02:04:11,390 coming so he'd better finish the 2697 02:04:19,480 --> 02:04:15,590 planting or information that she and 2698 02:04:22,950 --> 02:04:19,490 this has passed on to do I guess the 2699 02:04:27,430 --> 02:04:22,960 family I found out that my nephew who I 2700 02:04:30,130 --> 02:04:27,440 did not think because he's he's received 2701 02:04:32,620 --> 02:04:30,140 you know quite a high wish to protect 2702 02:04:34,900 --> 02:04:32,630 his anonymity on identifying but have 2703 02:04:37,630 --> 02:04:34,910 been very high political status in the 2704 02:04:42,790 --> 02:04:37,640 country admitted that the the lady 2705 02:04:47,800 --> 02:04:42,800 appeared to him so it seems that and 2706 02:04:50,560 --> 02:04:47,810 looking on no going back when I think of 2707 02:04:53,860 --> 02:04:50,570 of the family and the stories that I've 2708 02:04:57,000 --> 02:04:53,870 heard and that's why I say when we were 2709 02:05:00,090 --> 02:04:57,010 having the seminars I think these an 2710 02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:00,100 apprehension of this can be taught a 2711 02:05:05,950 --> 02:05:02,690 sensitivity toward this can be taught 2712 02:05:08,830 --> 02:05:05,960 and certainly a person I think can 2713 02:05:13,110 --> 02:05:08,840 become a more complete individual by 2714 02:05:16,240 --> 02:05:13,120 using meditation and other means of 2715 02:05:21,340 --> 02:05:16,250 evaluating and exploring and expanding 2716 02:05:22,990 --> 02:05:21,350 so all of these practices I think 2717 02:05:26,730 --> 02:05:23,000 certain of them can be learned a 2718 02:05:29,620 --> 02:05:26,740 receptivity to this 2719 02:05:31,380 --> 02:05:29,630 creativity because I choose to call it 2720 02:05:35,890 --> 02:05:31,390 you know the paranormal but it's also 2721 02:05:39,550 --> 02:05:35,900 para creativity I think a receptivity 2722 02:05:43,450 --> 02:05:39,560 and openness and a certain attitude can 2723 02:05:47,050 --> 02:05:43,460 only enrich people by having an attitude 2724 02:05:51,100 --> 02:05:47,060 of openness but not credulity credulity 2725 02:05:54,940 --> 02:05:51,110 is the enemy and an over imagination 2726 02:05:58,180 --> 02:05:54,950 imagine stillness can be it the enemy it 2727 02:06:01,150 --> 02:05:58,190 really do have to be grounded you have 2728 02:06:06,580 --> 02:06:01,160 to in other words we have too much of 2729 02:06:10,890 --> 02:06:06,590 now gee after the football game let's go 2730 02:06:14,110 --> 02:06:10,900 we work through G board or hey the old 2731 02:06:16,420 --> 02:06:14,120 Gundersen place is said to be haunted 2732 02:06:18,940 --> 02:06:16,430 and no one lives there anymore let's go 2733 02:06:23,050 --> 02:06:18,950 through the house we had too much of 2734 02:06:25,360 --> 02:06:23,060 that that it's a game and again I don't 2735 02:06:28,270 --> 02:06:25,370 want to be critical or some of the shows 2736 02:06:31,270 --> 02:06:28,280 on TV but they indicate that the 2737 02:06:34,360 --> 02:06:31,280 paranormal is really more entertainment 2738 02:06:36,970 --> 02:06:34,370 than something serious that must be 2739 02:06:40,600 --> 02:06:36,980 studied with an attitude almost of 2740 02:06:44,440 --> 02:06:40,610 devotion you need almost be to be devout 2741 02:06:47,440 --> 02:06:44,450 when you approach such a matter as 2742 02:06:49,450 --> 02:06:47,450 making contact or thinking you can make 2743 02:06:52,390 --> 02:06:49,460 contact or believing you can make 2744 02:06:55,030 --> 02:06:52,400 contact that has to be with an attitude 2745 02:06:57,700 --> 02:06:55,040 of both openness and devotion and 2746 02:07:00,550 --> 02:06:57,710 seriousness it's not entertainment 2747 02:07:02,920 --> 02:07:00,560 yes but the TV networks are looking for 2748 02:07:06,610 --> 02:07:02,930 ratings news is now entertainment one 2749 02:07:10,300 --> 02:07:06,620 day they awakened and realize that you 2750 02:07:13,570 --> 02:07:10,310 can make profits from news and therefore 2751 02:07:15,190 --> 02:07:13,580 they will take the news and present it 2752 02:07:18,250 --> 02:07:15,200 in a way that's entertaining and 2753 02:07:20,980 --> 02:07:18,260 sometimes facts are secondary absolutely 2754 02:07:25,540 --> 02:07:20,990 correct absolutely correct it's been 2755 02:07:29,260 --> 02:07:25,550 astonishing no for for some of us old 2756 02:07:34,900 --> 02:07:29,270 guys to see this but but again I think 2757 02:07:36,820 --> 02:07:34,910 the the time in which one begins to but 2758 02:07:38,560 --> 02:07:36,830 let me make this I think a very 2759 02:07:42,220 --> 02:07:38,570 important point 2760 02:07:45,730 --> 02:07:42,230 it can't be forced after when the book 2761 02:07:47,830 --> 02:07:45,740 The Sixth Sense came out in the little 2762 02:07:55,120 --> 02:07:47,840 boy I see dead people 2763 02:07:58,120 --> 02:07:55,130 I had a disturbingly number of wives I 2764 02:08:00,730 --> 02:07:58,130 mean mothers and mothers and wives but 2765 02:08:04,330 --> 02:08:00,740 mothers I meant to say write to me and 2766 02:08:08,230 --> 02:08:04,340 ask how they could help their children 2767 02:08:13,570 --> 02:08:08,240 see dead people and my answer was always 2768 02:08:18,790 --> 02:08:13,580 the same for God's sake don't if your 2769 02:08:22,330 --> 02:08:18,800 child has mediumistic abilities and you 2770 02:08:26,530 --> 02:08:22,340 you are objective enough to totally 2771 02:08:29,860 --> 02:08:26,540 appraise them then give him support give 2772 02:08:32,830 --> 02:08:29,870 him or her support comfort love but 2773 02:08:36,730 --> 02:08:32,840 don't encourage your children to see 2774 02:08:39,760 --> 02:08:36,740 dead people because they can which I did 2775 02:08:42,160 --> 02:08:39,770 not put into the emails and it's not a 2776 02:08:44,920 --> 02:08:42,170 very much confronted with that either I 2777 02:08:47,500 --> 02:08:44,930 gather obviously the kid in the sixth 2778 02:08:50,410 --> 02:08:47,510 sense was not having a regular old time 2779 02:08:52,480 --> 02:08:50,420 seeing old dead people but they thought 2780 02:08:55,690 --> 02:08:52,490 it was cool they thought it was cool and 2781 02:08:57,790 --> 02:08:55,700 some would write back very angry letters 2782 02:09:01,330 --> 02:08:57,800 you know what to do well then I'll just 2783 02:09:03,160 --> 02:09:01,340 go to someone else and I don't know you 2784 02:09:05,620 --> 02:09:03,170 know they really wanted that they 2785 02:09:07,840 --> 02:09:05,630 thought that would be neat if their five 2786 02:09:10,990 --> 02:09:07,850 six year olds are seeing dead people 2787 02:09:13,450 --> 02:09:11,000 again the imagination can come in but 2788 02:09:16,450 --> 02:09:13,460 you know there you talk about opening 2789 02:09:18,610 --> 02:09:16,460 doorways you just don't do that to your 2790 02:09:21,100 --> 02:09:18,620 child you don't do that to your tongue 2791 02:09:22,570 --> 02:09:21,110 the reverse if the child is seeing 2792 02:09:24,670 --> 02:09:22,580 something I'm again near the end of the 2793 02:09:26,500 --> 02:09:24,680 segment if the child is seeing something 2794 02:09:32,770 --> 02:09:26,510 it's 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02:14:13,479 --> 02:14:10,249 line arteries in both my legs in my 2892 02:14:16,509 --> 02:14:13,489 decision waiting for surgery to stay no 2893 02:14:19,659 --> 02:14:16,519 and try heart and body extract instead 2894 02:14:23,040 --> 02:14:19,669 has been thankfully the right decision 2895 02:14:24,339 --> 02:14:23,050 and the result I can now walk up without 2896 02:14:26,049 --> 02:14:24,349 pain 2897 02:14:28,540 --> 02:14:26,059 order heart and body extract at eight 2898 02:14:31,600 --> 02:14:28,550 sixty six two nine five five three zero 2899 02:14:36,069 --> 02:14:31,610 five eight six six two nine five five 2900 02:14:38,290 --> 02:14:36,079 three zero five or HB extract calm heart 2901 02:14:44,229 --> 02:14:38,300 and body extract for a long and healthy 2902 02:14:46,389 --> 02:14:44,239 life this is Leslie cane and I'm with 2903 02:14:50,069 --> 02:14:46,399 the Coalition for freedom of information 2904 02:14:56,979 --> 02:14:53,139 exploring the unknown unknown beings 2905 02:14:58,839 --> 02:14:56,989 unknown places I guess the critical 2906 02:15:01,389 --> 02:14:58,849 question always comes into play bright 2907 02:15:04,689 --> 02:15:01,399 Steiger how do we know when people are 2908 02:15:05,529 --> 02:15:04,699 just maybe faking it and that happens 2909 02:15:12,369 --> 02:15:05,539 all the time 2910 02:15:15,330 --> 02:15:12,379 now after 50 years I don't lay down a 2911 02:15:18,639 --> 02:15:15,340 challenge saying you can't fool me but 2912 02:15:19,899 --> 02:15:18,649 gene you know we at this point we've 2913 02:15:22,029 --> 02:15:19,909 heard at all haven't we 2914 02:15:23,979 --> 02:15:22,039 but maybe we have it maybe someone will 2915 02:15:27,520 --> 02:15:23,989 come up with a new one but I like to 2916 02:15:32,109 --> 02:15:27,530 think that in exchange and well we get 2917 02:15:34,659 --> 02:15:32,119 some we got some incredibly I mean after 2918 02:15:36,669 --> 02:15:34,669 this book has come out I mean we just 2919 02:15:39,879 --> 02:15:36,679 have really remark on and the thing 2920 02:15:41,379 --> 02:15:39,889 these are very intelligent people and 2921 02:15:43,659 --> 02:15:41,389 they're dealing with things you know 2922 02:15:46,929 --> 02:15:43,669 that have been told all their lives that 2923 02:15:49,629 --> 02:15:46,939 they can't see they can't be and now 2924 02:15:52,659 --> 02:15:49,639 they say you know in split ibly but 2925 02:15:54,609 --> 02:15:52,669 incredibly I am seeing these things I'm 2926 02:15:57,729 --> 02:15:54,619 having these feelings I'm having this 2927 02:16:02,399 --> 02:15:57,739 and and again someone will write as they 2928 02:16:06,189 --> 02:16:02,409 do saying I have the most astonishing 2929 02:16:10,270 --> 02:16:06,199 vision that no one has ever had in the 2930 02:16:14,889 --> 02:16:10,280 history of the world but I'm willing to 2931 02:16:17,320 --> 02:16:14,899 share it with you now come on again as 2932 02:16:21,610 --> 02:16:17,330 politely as I can I say 2933 02:16:22,900 --> 02:16:21,620 you know after being in really absorbing 2934 02:16:26,740 --> 02:16:22,910 all of my life 2935 02:16:30,790 --> 02:16:26,750 maybe all 77 years but professionally 2936 02:16:33,669 --> 02:16:30,800 for at least 60 years I doubt if you 2937 02:16:35,500 --> 02:16:33,679 have a vision that I would declare the 2938 02:16:40,480 --> 02:16:35,510 world had never heard or they have a 2939 02:16:44,530 --> 02:16:40,490 ghost picture that if this is revealed 2940 02:16:47,860 --> 02:16:44,540 it will prove for all time that the 2941 02:16:51,129 --> 02:16:47,870 afterlife exists and of course we try to 2942 02:16:53,950 --> 02:16:51,139 answer as politely as possible that the 2943 02:16:57,280 --> 02:16:53,960 afterlife does not hinge upon a 2944 02:17:00,310 --> 02:16:57,290 photograph the afterlife is a matter of 2945 02:17:03,940 --> 02:17:00,320 faith it's a matter of opportunity it's 2946 02:17:06,339 --> 02:17:03,950 a matter of vision and for some 2947 02:17:08,620 --> 02:17:06,349 experience but for most faith and a 2948 02:17:11,410 --> 02:17:08,630 photograph one way or the other and 2949 02:17:15,250 --> 02:17:11,420 especially today I mean come on 2950 02:17:17,530 --> 02:17:15,260 back in the 50s and 60s Jean when we got 2951 02:17:20,980 --> 02:17:17,540 those UFO pictures I mean we said ah 2952 02:17:22,959 --> 02:17:20,990 come on you just pasted thunder on the 2953 02:17:26,980 --> 02:17:22,969 window and took a picture of it or you 2954 02:17:29,140 --> 02:17:26,990 threw a hubcap in the air but now with 2955 02:17:33,790 --> 02:17:29,150 the photography and digital photography 2956 02:17:36,430 --> 02:17:33,800 I mean I'm sorry but photography does 2957 02:17:38,919 --> 02:17:36,440 not give us our proof it may demonstrate 2958 02:17:41,140 --> 02:17:38,929 the talent of the individual but it 2959 02:17:43,930 --> 02:17:41,150 doesn't give proof so all of these 2960 02:17:46,480 --> 02:17:43,940 people are offering proof I mean it may 2961 02:17:49,510 --> 02:17:46,490 truly be something that is proof for 2962 02:17:52,690 --> 02:17:49,520 themselves but to declare you know that 2963 02:17:57,010 --> 02:17:52,700 they have the answers as I've said so 2964 02:18:00,070 --> 02:17:57,020 long someone who claims he or she has 2965 02:18:02,709 --> 02:18:00,080 the answers I don't want to sit beside 2966 02:18:03,940 --> 02:18:02,719 on a long bus ride well there's so much 2967 02:18:06,580 --> 02:18:03,950 of that is it because of wishful 2968 02:18:09,669 --> 02:18:06,590 thinking we have this mystery or many 2969 02:18:11,230 --> 02:18:09,679 mysteries we cannot understand so 2970 02:18:13,540 --> 02:18:11,240 somebody comes in there and hopes 2971 02:18:15,490 --> 02:18:13,550 they've solved it well maybe believes 2972 02:18:18,180 --> 02:18:15,500 they've solved it or maybe you know 2973 02:18:21,160 --> 02:18:18,190 advantage of people who want a solution 2974 02:18:23,980 --> 02:18:21,170 right but at best you can say for some 2975 02:18:26,530 --> 02:18:23,990 people who you feel are sincere then you 2976 02:18:29,200 --> 02:18:26,540 can say well god bless you you've solved 2977 02:18:31,209 --> 02:18:29,210 it for yourself you proved it to 2978 02:18:33,660 --> 02:18:31,219 yourself and that's very 2979 02:18:38,309 --> 02:18:33,670 important that's very important to you 2980 02:18:41,500 --> 02:18:38,319 but to try to say that it may not have 2981 02:18:45,129 --> 02:18:41,510 special meaning to others this is your 2982 02:18:49,030 --> 02:18:45,139 own special proof so because of its 2983 02:18:50,469 --> 02:18:49,040 being individual proof you can have a 2984 02:18:52,089 --> 02:18:50,479 couple of scientists come in the door 2985 02:18:53,679 --> 02:18:52,099 and say okay let's get our instruments 2986 02:18:56,169 --> 02:18:53,689 out can you measure it is any of this 2987 02:19:00,549 --> 02:18:56,179 stuff measurable at all well people 2988 02:19:03,479 --> 02:19:00,559 declare it is and and I I think one day 2989 02:19:07,240 --> 02:19:03,489 we'll measure that we're getting into 2990 02:19:10,000 --> 02:19:07,250 quantum mechanics whatever that means I 2991 02:19:13,229 --> 02:19:10,010 hear so many definitions we subscribe to 2992 02:19:15,700 --> 02:19:13,239 a number of scientific publications some 2993 02:19:18,700 --> 02:19:15,710 we cherish a little more than others 2994 02:19:21,129 --> 02:19:18,710 some are very open we also subscribe to 2995 02:19:22,660 --> 02:19:21,139 some that are very close to this field 2996 02:19:25,990 --> 02:19:22,670 because I think it's good you know you 2997 02:19:28,870 --> 02:19:26,000 need to hear what with the skeptics the 2998 02:19:31,299 --> 02:19:28,880 dollars are saying and I think that's 2999 02:19:35,169 --> 02:19:31,309 all valuable and again you see this 3000 02:19:37,570 --> 02:19:35,179 constant and that's if I go back again 3001 02:19:42,009 --> 02:19:37,580 to the other you know the other that 3002 02:19:46,000 --> 02:19:42,019 seems to me to be the impulse the that 3003 02:19:48,040 --> 02:19:46,010 the spirit of humanity that whether it 3004 02:19:49,599 --> 02:19:48,050 comes from outer space whether it comes 3005 02:19:52,719 --> 02:19:49,609 over then whether it comes from our 3006 02:19:56,920 --> 02:19:52,729 higher self I think there is a direction 3007 02:19:59,740 --> 02:19:56,930 I think there is a purpose and that's I 3008 02:20:02,019 --> 02:19:59,750 realize that can be a belief it's one 3009 02:20:05,469 --> 02:20:02,029 that's Jerry shares of course or we 3010 02:20:08,080 --> 02:20:05,479 couldn't be living together little so I 3011 02:20:12,010 --> 02:20:08,090 think books together but again one thing 3012 02:20:15,639 --> 02:20:12,020 when I had my near-death experience at 3013 02:20:18,040 --> 02:20:15,649 age eleven you know uh you know I come 3014 02:20:22,050 --> 02:20:18,050 from an evangelistic Christian 3015 02:20:25,030 --> 02:20:22,060 background so one would think when I was 3016 02:20:27,790 --> 02:20:25,040 dying and everyone thought I was dying 3017 02:20:30,490 --> 02:20:27,800 and putting the doctor everyone that I 3018 02:20:34,290 --> 02:20:30,500 would have seen Jesus I would have seen 3019 02:20:39,160 --> 02:20:34,300 angels what I saw was a series of 3020 02:20:44,410 --> 02:20:39,170 geometric designs and when I would say I 3021 02:20:45,041 --> 02:20:44,420 don't want to die I would see and I see 3022 02:20:47,680 --> 02:20:45,051 them clearly 3023 02:20:51,701 --> 02:20:47,690 there's no way I can explain them but I 3024 02:20:55,121 --> 02:20:51,711 saw a pattern that told me okay kid if 3025 02:20:58,121 --> 02:20:55,131 you die here's the word the world will 3026 02:21:02,081 --> 02:20:58,131 go on without you okay but then after a 3027 02:21:05,131 --> 02:21:02,091 series I saw you know and again this 3028 02:21:08,171 --> 02:21:05,141 sounds pretentious but hear me out I saw 3029 02:21:11,530 --> 02:21:08,181 for me the meaning of life the meaning 3030 02:21:16,211 --> 02:21:11,540 of history the meaning of everything and 3031 02:21:19,930 --> 02:21:16,221 to me it saw that there was a plan now I 3032 02:21:22,331 --> 02:21:19,940 see it clearly I can describe it I don't 3033 02:21:24,850 --> 02:21:22,341 claim to have that ability folks I don't 3034 02:21:27,610 --> 02:21:24,860 claim to see that now and I can't give 3035 02:21:29,411 --> 02:21:27,620 you like a DMT experience like your body 3036 02:21:31,930 --> 02:21:29,421 flooded you with diamond and methyl 3037 02:21:36,430 --> 02:21:31,940 tryptamine yeah okay you can say that 3038 02:21:38,201 --> 02:21:36,440 explanation but I think no yeah okay so 3039 02:21:41,320 --> 02:21:38,211 there was the chemical response but in 3040 02:21:45,430 --> 02:21:41,330 any rate seeing what I think were the 3041 02:21:50,081 --> 02:21:45,440 building blocks you know of of reality 3042 02:21:53,261 --> 02:21:50,091 was what told me that the names we give 3043 02:21:55,810 --> 02:21:53,271 to our various philosophies are useful 3044 02:21:58,060 --> 02:21:55,820 to certain individuals a certain time 3045 02:22:00,610 --> 02:21:58,070 the names we give to our religious 3046 02:22:03,400 --> 02:22:00,620 expressions are useful to certain people 3047 02:22:06,190 --> 02:22:03,410 at certain times that there is a oneness 3048 02:22:10,360 --> 02:22:06,200 there is a oneness that we are all a 3049 02:22:14,161 --> 02:22:10,370 part of there's only one reality there's 3050 02:22:18,280 --> 02:22:14,171 only one faith there's only one and it's 3051 02:22:22,150 --> 02:22:18,290 supersedes the entire and absorbs itself 3052 02:22:24,940 --> 02:22:22,160 into the entire species we are one we 3053 02:22:27,661 --> 02:22:24,950 recognize that we are creatures of the 3054 02:22:31,751 --> 02:22:27,671 light rather than or the darkness and 3055 02:22:37,741 --> 02:22:31,761 that's what I saw which was meaningful 3056 02:22:42,041 --> 02:22:37,751 to me and seeing those patterns those 3057 02:22:45,461 --> 02:22:42,051 symbols rather than entities now later 3058 02:22:48,070 --> 02:22:45,471 on then I was in another reality the 3059 02:22:50,761 --> 02:22:48,080 type of beautiful reality I like where 3060 02:22:54,070 --> 02:22:50,771 there were horses and valleys and and 3061 02:22:56,081 --> 02:22:54,080 popcorn machines and you know just a 3062 02:22:58,530 --> 02:22:56,091 wonderful people laughing and talking 3063 02:23:01,000 --> 02:22:58,540 and being kind and loving 3064 02:23:03,640 --> 02:23:01,010 during the five days when I was 3065 02:23:07,060 --> 02:23:03,650 unconscious and obviously did not die 3066 02:23:11,770 --> 02:23:07,070 but a part of me died and that was the 3067 02:23:15,040 --> 02:23:11,780 you know the solidly pattern of life 3068 02:23:18,760 --> 02:23:15,050 that would probably had been set for me 3069 02:23:22,240 --> 02:23:18,770 and an entire change and alteration and 3070 02:23:27,580 --> 02:23:22,250 a true realization of what I was to do 3071 02:23:29,080 --> 02:23:27,590 and and what it was to be well that's 3072 02:23:34,330 --> 02:23:29,090 pretty heavy for eleven-year-old to go 3073 02:23:36,670 --> 02:23:34,340 through yeah yeah and I tried what what 3074 02:23:39,670 --> 02:23:36,680 then i when I came back I realized well 3075 02:23:44,050 --> 02:23:39,680 it is true just as everyone tells me I 3076 02:23:47,380 --> 02:23:44,060 should be a pastor when I grow up and 3077 02:23:50,800 --> 02:23:47,390 that way you are well in a way I am I 3078 02:23:52,540 --> 02:23:50,810 prefer to say shaman yeah Shawn which is 3079 02:23:53,710 --> 02:23:52,550 which is I mean you people look up to 3080 02:23:56,860 --> 02:23:53,720 you and they look up to your life 3081 02:24:00,219 --> 02:23:56,870 experience and your your wisdom and and 3082 02:24:02,770 --> 02:24:00,229 you have a lot of lessons that you share 3083 02:24:04,990 --> 02:24:02,780 through your work and and sherry as well 3084 02:24:07,210 --> 02:24:05,000 and there's so there's a real 3085 02:24:08,590 --> 02:24:07,220 correlation there we have to do the 3086 02:24:10,990 --> 02:24:08,600 broad learn we have to do the break now 3087 02:24:12,940 --> 02:24:11,000 rather Steiger we've got to do the break 3088 02:24:15,550 --> 02:24:12,950 now and then we'll continue with our 3089 02:24:20,180 --> 02:24:15,560 final segment Brad Steiger joins Jean 3090 02:24:20,190 --> 02:24:28,420 [Music] 3091 02:24:34,840 --> 02:24:31,659 the GC and radio network providing the 3092 02:24:39,429 --> 02:24:34,850 world with hard-hitting talk radio G C 3093 02:24:41,800 --> 02:24:39,439 and great talk radio starts here if you 3094 02:24:44,260 --> 02:24:41,810 want to get your website online and you 3095 02:24:46,210 --> 02:24:44,270 need reliable service first-class 3096 02:24:48,429 --> 02:24:46,220 service at the lowest possible price 3097 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that turns out to be a nightmare 3111 02:25:25,059 --> 02:25:23,300 because evil forces on our distant 3112 02:25:27,670 --> 02:25:25,069 planet are planning to conquer the earth 3113 02:25:30,130 --> 02:25:27,680 this is gripping science fiction of the 3114 02:25:32,229 --> 02:25:30,140 classic kind attack of the rock codes 3115 02:25:34,960 --> 02:25:32,239 and the coming of the protectors find 3116 02:25:40,120 --> 02:25:34,970 out more at Rocko it's calm that's Rocko 3117 02:25:42,340 --> 02:25:40,130 it's our Ock oids calm this alert just 3118 02:25:44,080 --> 02:25:42,350 came in this special announcement is for 3119 02:25:46,179 --> 02:25:44,090 business owners and leaders of 3120 02:25:48,819 --> 02:25:46,189 organizations who've been waiting for 3121 02:25:50,529 --> 02:25:48,829 the right time to build General Steel 3122 02:25:52,330 --> 02:25:50,539 has made it impossible to wait any 3123 02:25:54,489 --> 02:25:52,340 longer with rock-bottom prices that 3124 02:25:56,769 --> 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02:26:21,770 imagine a 70 by 100 foot church building 3139 02:26:25,689 --> 02:26:23,209 for under sixty nine thousand dollars 3140 02:26:27,939 --> 02:26:25,699 with the economy improving and interest 3141 02:26:32,349 --> 02:26:27,949 rates still at historic lows you can't 3142 02:26:35,830 --> 02:26:32,359 afford to wait so call 866 91 steel 866 3143 02:26:40,900 --> 02:26:35,840 91 steel that's eight six six nine one 3144 02:26:43,750 --> 02:26:40,910 seven 8335 nutritious 3145 02:26:46,390 --> 02:26:43,760 food is real body armor he builds muscle 3146 02:26:48,400 --> 02:26:46,400 burns fat improves digestion and feeds 3147 02:26:50,650 --> 02:26:48,410 the entire body the nutrients it needs 3148 02:26:52,150 --> 02:26:50,660 did you know the US government banned 3149 02:26:54,100 --> 02:26:52,160 the hemp plant from growing in the 3150 02:26:56,290 --> 02:26:54,110 United States and classified it as a 3151 02:26:57,881 --> 02:26:56,300 Schedule one drug to hide it behind the 3152 02:26:59,860 --> 02:26:57,891 marijuana plant people have been 3153 02:27:01,990 --> 02:26:59,870 confused about this plan for over 80 3154 02:27:04,660 --> 02:27:02,000 years and many still don't know what 3155 02:27:07,480 --> 02:27:04,670 hemp is so now you know him Pitts not 3156 02:27:09,160 --> 02:27:07,490 marijuana and marijuana is not him they 3157 02:27:11,801 --> 02:27:09,170 are different varieties of the same 3158 02:27:13,990 --> 02:27:11,811 speech you hemp USA org wants the world 3159 02:27:15,730 --> 02:27:14,000 to know these basic facts and to help 3160 02:27:17,680 --> 02:27:15,740 people understand that him protein 3161 02:27:20,051 --> 02:27:17,690 powder is the best kept health secret 3162 02:27:22,390 --> 02:27:20,061 you need to know about remember him 3163 02:27:24,551 --> 02:27:22,400 protein powder contains 53 percent 3164 02:27:27,250 --> 02:27:24,561 protein he's gluten-free anti 3165 02:27:29,170 --> 02:27:27,260 inflammatory non-gmo and is loaded with 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02:27:57,110 seventeen point nine percent you're 3181 02:27:59,530 --> 02:27:57,620 fired 3182 02:28:01,631 --> 02:27:59,540 one out of three young adults and one 3183 02:28:04,180 --> 02:28:01,641 out of two recent college graduates are 3184 02:28:05,410 --> 02:28:04,190 underemployed hello I'm Keith Abel a 3185 02:28:07,720 --> 02:28:05,420 pharmacist and a home business 3186 02:28:09,370 --> 02:28:07,730 entrepreneur in 2011 I became one of 3187 02:28:10,810 --> 02:28:09,380 those statistics myself instead of 3188 02:28:12,761 --> 02:28:10,820 looking for another job in corporate 3189 02:28:14,890 --> 02:28:12,771 America I joined dr. Joel Wallace the 3190 02:28:16,690 --> 02:28:14,900 dead doctors don't lag I we're creating 3191 02:28:18,430 --> 02:28:16,700 steady incomes for ourselves and would 3192 02:28:19,930 --> 02:28:18,440 like to show you how to do the same if 3193 02:28:22,060 --> 02:28:19,940 you want to supplement your current 3194 02:28:23,230 --> 02:28:22,070 income replace your income so you don't 3195 02:28:25,511 --> 02:28:23,240 have to become one of the statistics 3196 02:28:28,180 --> 02:28:25,521 then give me a call toll free at eight 3197 02:28:31,301 --> 02:28:28,190 six six two five seven three one zero 3198 02:28:33,011 --> 02:28:31,311 five eight six six two five seven three 3199 02:28:34,060 --> 02:28:33,021 one zero five you're fired 3200 02:28:35,890 --> 02:28:34,070 don't wait till you hear those words 3201 02:28:38,440 --> 02:28:35,900 start creating an extra income today 3202 02:28:44,920 --> 02:28:38,450 eight six six two five seven three one 3203 02:28:46,720 --> 02:28:44,930 zero five hello this is rosemary ellen 3204 02:28:49,450 --> 02:28:46,730 guiley and you're listening to the 3205 02:28:50,720 --> 02:28:49,460 podcast the gold standard a paranormal 3206 02:29:07,301 --> 02:28:50,730 radio 3207 02:29:11,451 --> 02:29:09,411 just think here there's gonna be a 3208 02:29:13,161 --> 02:29:11,461 recording someday where all the people 3209 02:29:16,071 --> 02:29:13,171 who have ever said the stinger the 3210 02:29:18,171 --> 02:29:16,081 parent yes will be put in one room or a 3211 02:29:19,430 --> 02:29:18,181 virtual room will put together will put 3212 02:29:21,890 --> 02:29:19,440 some music behind it 3213 02:29:24,791 --> 02:29:21,900 Chris will play 27 different instruments 3214 02:29:27,051 --> 02:29:24,801 and it'll be a hit record that will be 3215 02:29:29,301 --> 02:29:27,061 anybody the old days of course you had 3216 02:29:32,691 --> 02:29:29,311 the mothers of invention and Frank Zappa 3217 02:29:36,051 --> 02:29:32,701 doing Suzy cream-cheese we will do the 3218 02:29:39,531 --> 02:29:36,061 power cast and the mothers of devolution 3219 02:29:42,051 --> 02:29:39,541 or something like that I don't know it 3220 02:29:46,341 --> 02:29:42,061 sounds almost like Devo I think it'd be 3221 02:29:49,611 --> 02:29:46,351 the mothers of prevention yeah I just 3222 02:29:52,401 --> 02:29:49,621 wanted to add one thing as I said the I 3223 02:29:55,930 --> 02:29:52,411 became convinced then that I was to go 3224 02:29:58,881 --> 02:29:55,940 into the ministry and I went to a 3225 02:30:01,671 --> 02:29:58,891 Christian college and all the Bible 3226 02:30:05,361 --> 02:30:01,681 Department thought that I too was that 3227 02:30:09,201 --> 02:30:05,371 going to the seminary but the more I 3228 02:30:15,081 --> 02:30:09,211 talked about my experiences I realized 3229 02:30:17,091 --> 02:30:15,091 that in the conventional reality of the 3230 02:30:20,560 --> 02:30:17,101 church at that time I hope there's been 3231 02:30:24,911 --> 02:30:20,570 growth they didn't want to hear about I 3232 02:30:28,060 --> 02:30:24,921 went to another heaven and came back 3233 02:30:33,020 --> 02:30:28,070 because that was looked upon really as 3234 02:30:35,390 --> 02:30:33,030 almost blasphemous and I thought that I 3235 02:30:38,001 --> 02:30:35,400 would be in the pulpit and I would be 3236 02:30:41,571 --> 02:30:38,011 saying folks everything that has been 3237 02:30:45,801 --> 02:30:41,581 promised is true but I realized at that 3238 02:30:48,231 --> 02:30:45,811 time back in the fifties that would not 3239 02:30:51,350 --> 02:30:48,241 be an acceptable message there is an 3240 02:30:53,511 --> 02:30:51,360 error see yeah there's right and there's 3241 02:30:56,270 --> 02:30:53,521 only one path and there's only one way 3242 02:30:58,310 --> 02:30:56,280 that one can get to heaven and that was 3243 02:31:01,371 --> 02:30:58,320 clearly outlined by the doctrines and 3244 02:31:04,600 --> 02:31:01,381 dogmas of the church so that's when I 3245 02:31:09,430 --> 02:31:04,610 realized that you know the type of 3246 02:31:12,890 --> 02:31:09,440 spirituality you know that I would be 3247 02:31:15,051 --> 02:31:12,900 talking about and sharing would be a 3248 02:31:17,881 --> 02:31:15,061 universal 3249 02:31:20,881 --> 02:31:17,891 spirituality in which we emphasize the 3250 02:31:23,791 --> 02:31:20,891 oneness there's only one life force 3251 02:31:27,211 --> 02:31:23,801 there's only one species there's only 3252 02:31:30,511 --> 02:31:27,221 one reality and there's only one spirit 3253 02:31:33,091 --> 02:31:30,521 and we are all a part of it and people 3254 02:31:36,081 --> 02:31:33,101 some people who resonate with that and 3255 02:31:38,761 --> 02:31:36,091 some people are still offended because 3256 02:31:41,220 --> 02:31:38,771 moving away from the various doctrines 3257 02:31:44,371 --> 02:31:41,230 now if those doctrines give you strength 3258 02:31:47,990 --> 02:31:44,381 and give you courage to face the world 3259 02:31:52,501 --> 02:31:48,000 as it is with its many dangers and 3260 02:31:54,961 --> 02:31:52,511 obstacles then that is wonderful and the 3261 02:31:58,560 --> 02:31:54,971 path you should follow but I hope that 3262 02:32:01,440 --> 02:31:58,570 part of everyone recognizes that they 3263 02:32:04,280 --> 02:32:01,450 are not superior to anyone they did not 3264 02:32:08,041 --> 02:32:04,290 have a greater truth than anyone and 3265 02:32:11,011 --> 02:32:08,051 life is kind of like our friend Gina 3266 02:32:13,940 --> 02:32:11,021 chairman ARRA would say yes he was a 3267 02:32:17,190 --> 02:32:13,950 samantha cyst as well as writing about 3268 02:32:22,020 --> 02:32:17,200 spiritual matters that life is like a 3269 02:32:26,251 --> 02:32:22,030 great spiritual cafeteria and there is 3270 02:32:29,011 --> 02:32:26,261 not one true food you select what you 3271 02:32:31,410 --> 02:32:29,021 can digest and what works for you there 3272 02:32:36,751 --> 02:32:31,420 is no one true food so if someone comes 3273 02:32:40,251 --> 02:32:36,761 and says your plate is wrong yes smog is 3274 02:32:43,801 --> 02:32:40,261 the Lord all right it is a spiritual 3275 02:32:46,791 --> 02:32:43,811 smorgasbord you've got it Chris any 3276 02:32:50,761 --> 02:32:46,801 questions left from our audience yeah 3277 02:32:55,350 --> 02:32:50,771 there's one one left that I think it's a 3278 02:32:58,440 --> 02:32:55,360 good one and I think it really kind of 3279 02:33:00,001 --> 02:32:58,450 sums up a lot of people who are you know 3280 02:33:02,011 --> 02:33:00,011 sitting on the fence or a little bit 3281 02:33:04,921 --> 02:33:02,021 skeptical about a lot of these these 3282 02:33:06,450 --> 02:33:04,931 types of subject matter that you've 3283 02:33:08,301 --> 02:33:06,460 written extensively about and that we 3284 02:33:11,791 --> 02:33:08,311 cover here on the podcast we do have 3285 02:33:13,980 --> 02:33:11,801 quite a healthily open-minded but 3286 02:33:16,921 --> 02:33:13,990 skeptical audience I might might say in 3287 02:33:20,160 --> 02:33:16,931 a lot of sense and the question is from 3288 02:33:22,081 --> 02:33:20,170 burnt stayed again if there are actual 3289 02:33:24,841 --> 02:33:22,091 messages that this other wants to get 3290 02:33:27,020 --> 02:33:24,851 across to us why are there no why aren't 3291 02:33:28,849 --> 02:33:27,030 they more explicit and why aren't they 3292 02:33:30,260 --> 02:33:28,859 directed at humanity 3293 02:33:33,080 --> 02:33:30,270 instead of getting muddled up with 3294 02:33:35,059 --> 02:33:33,090 contact bees and individuals where the 3295 02:33:37,519 --> 02:33:35,069 message often destabilizes into 3296 02:33:39,979 --> 02:33:37,529 ridiculousness or the need to form human 3297 02:33:43,729 --> 02:33:39,989 cults of worship shouldn't they pick a 3298 02:33:45,559 --> 02:33:43,739 more reliable way to communicate yeah 3299 02:33:46,790 --> 02:33:45,569 that's the big question is another one 3300 02:33:49,000 --> 02:33:46,800 of the big questions 3301 02:33:52,010 --> 02:33:49,010 it's a conditioning process number one 3302 02:33:56,059 --> 02:33:52,020 yeah it is a conditioning process we 3303 02:33:59,149 --> 02:33:56,069 have centuries of conditioning that we 3304 02:34:01,519 --> 02:33:59,159 have to cut through and I think the 3305 02:34:05,210 --> 02:34:01,529 message if you look at the message it's 3306 02:34:09,409 --> 02:34:05,220 consistent my book revelation the divine 3307 02:34:12,609 --> 02:34:09,419 fire I tried to show there the 3308 02:34:16,010 --> 02:34:12,619 consistency of the central message of 3309 02:34:19,840 --> 02:34:16,020 Revelation that has come to profits now 3310 02:34:23,000 --> 02:34:19,850 again many people have tried to make 3311 02:34:26,179 --> 02:34:23,010 prophecy possible haven't they 3312 02:34:29,359 --> 02:34:26,189 and they set up various institutions 3313 02:34:31,909 --> 02:34:29,369 throughout history to to charge people 3314 02:34:34,880 --> 02:34:31,919 certain sums for them to interpret the 3315 02:34:37,099 --> 02:34:34,890 prophecy the answers are within always 3316 02:34:40,479 --> 02:34:37,109 within and I think that's what the 3317 02:34:43,189 --> 02:34:40,489 message has always been to look within 3318 02:34:43,639 --> 02:34:43,199 examine yourself to your own self be 3319 02:34:48,109 --> 02:34:43,649 true 3320 02:34:52,340 --> 02:34:48,119 etc etc etc but it's going to take a 3321 02:34:54,590 --> 02:34:52,350 long time to to shed this conditioning 3322 02:34:57,920 --> 02:34:54,600 process that's been going on for 3323 02:35:03,050 --> 02:34:57,930 centuries but if you look at the what we 3324 02:35:05,659 --> 02:35:03,060 call the the holy books if you will of 3325 02:35:07,519 --> 02:35:05,669 all cultures you see they're all saying 3326 02:35:10,609 --> 02:35:07,529 the same they have the same message but 3327 02:35:13,399 --> 02:35:10,619 we have human interpreters and that's 3328 02:35:16,040 --> 02:35:13,409 what we have to somehow in the moments 3329 02:35:19,659 --> 02:35:16,050 of silence and the moment to recognize 3330 02:35:23,149 --> 02:35:19,669 that these are all individual mystical 3331 02:35:27,500 --> 02:35:23,159 experiences Henry James 3332 02:35:29,689 --> 02:35:27,510 William James excuse me in his varieties 3333 02:35:31,309 --> 02:35:29,699 of religious experience mentions that 3334 02:35:34,399 --> 02:35:31,319 and I think it's something we should 3335 02:35:37,010 --> 02:35:34,409 always remember that all of these 3336 02:35:39,949 --> 02:35:37,020 experiences all of the experiences that 3337 02:35:43,310 --> 02:35:39,959 we mentioned in the other are examples 3338 02:35:46,970 --> 02:35:43,320 of the individual mystical 3339 02:35:51,711 --> 02:35:46,980 the truth and the meaning lies always in 3340 02:35:54,591 --> 02:35:51,721 the individual not in theologies not in 3341 02:35:57,171 --> 02:35:54,601 doctrines not in dogma that in the 3342 02:36:01,310 --> 02:35:57,181 individual mystical experience the one 3343 02:36:03,740 --> 02:36:01,320 that's the even in enmity of that an 3344 02:36:06,020 --> 02:36:03,750 interesting sum up sobriety stagger 3345 02:36:08,091 --> 02:36:06,030 what's next on the agenda 3346 02:36:16,940 --> 02:36:08,101 you got another 25 books we're gonna see 3347 02:36:22,580 --> 02:36:16,950 soon it's a time gene old friend to kind 3348 02:36:26,650 --> 02:36:22,590 of evaluate to carefully assess what the 3349 02:36:31,341 --> 02:36:26,660 nest next project will be we think 3350 02:36:34,160 --> 02:36:31,351 forgive a little bit of ego that real 3351 02:36:38,091 --> 02:36:34,170 encounters is a very special book to us 3352 02:36:40,400 --> 02:36:38,101 we hope it will be to to many others and 3353 02:36:43,671 --> 02:36:40,410 then it's the time of the revaluation 3354 02:36:46,011 --> 02:36:43,681 and reflection but my friend you shall 3355 02:36:49,341 --> 02:36:46,021 be among the first to know what the next 3356 02:36:51,341 --> 02:36:49,351 project is indeed you'll have the 3357 02:36:54,560 --> 02:36:51,351 autographed copy and will be ready to go 3358 02:36:56,180 --> 02:36:54,570 for us who want to know more about all 3359 02:36:57,890 --> 02:36:56,190 the stuff Wright's Tiger does do you 3360 02:37:01,520 --> 02:36:57,900 have a website or something you can 3361 02:37:04,251 --> 02:37:01,530 point them to yes we have the website 3362 02:37:04,790 --> 02:37:04,261 which you so graciously put on your 3363 02:37:12,350 --> 02:37:04,800 website 3364 02:37:17,570 --> 02:37:12,360 it's WWE and sherry a nd and serious sh 3365 02:37:22,190 --> 02:37:17,580 e rry dot-com we also have a Bratz Tiger 3366 02:37:26,480 --> 02:37:22,200 Facebook now people can check that out 3367 02:37:27,310 --> 02:37:26,490 for try to keep people informed as to 3368 02:37:29,570 --> 02:37:27,320 what we're doing 3369 02:37:31,190 --> 02:37:29,580 alright and the book by the way is 3370 02:37:33,251 --> 02:37:31,200 called real encounters different 3371 02:37:36,171 --> 02:37:33,261 dimensions and otherworldly beings 3372 02:37:39,801 --> 02:37:36,181 rats Tiger and sherry Hanson Steiger 3373 02:37:42,290 --> 02:37:39,811 it's a thick book folks okay well we 3374 02:37:44,030 --> 02:37:42,300 regress and it's very well printed very 3375 02:37:45,680 --> 02:37:44,040 well presented lots and lots of 3376 02:37:47,780 --> 02:37:45,690 illustrations I'm looking at it now 3377 02:37:49,580 --> 02:37:47,790 seriously I really have it here speaking 3378 02:37:52,580 --> 02:37:49,590 of books are on Chris O'Brien is putting 3379 02:37:56,420 --> 02:37:52,590 the finishing touches on stalking the 3380 02:37:58,400 --> 02:37:56,430 herd I don't look at cattle mutilations 3381 02:38:01,130 --> 02:37:58,410 no he's gonna send a copy autograph for 3382 02:38:03,889 --> 02:38:01,140 Brad Steiger I certainly a.m. I will do 3383 02:38:04,639 --> 02:38:03,899 a review of it I love that boy I'd be 3384 02:38:09,530 --> 02:38:04,649 honored 3385 02:38:13,939 --> 02:38:09,540 I got to Sara says to give to remember 3386 02:38:16,610 --> 02:38:13,949 her to your dear wife and we think 3387 02:38:20,059 --> 02:38:16,620 fondly of your son and we think fondly 3388 02:38:20,840 --> 02:38:20,069 of you always Jane and Kris nice to get 3389 02:38:23,269 --> 02:38:20,850 to know you 3390 02:38:24,860 --> 02:38:23,279 thank you very much sir let me just tell 3391 02:38:26,510 --> 02:38:24,870 our listeners that you can find more 3392 02:38:28,790 --> 02:38:26,520 Chris O'Brien stuff at our strange 3393 02:38:31,610 --> 02:38:28,800 planet calm once again that's our 3394 02:38:34,040 --> 02:38:31,620 strange planet calm we are in Facebook 3395 02:38:36,679 --> 02:38:34,050 too there are two power cast fan clubs 3396 02:38:39,050 --> 02:38:36,689 they're on Twitter we are the para cast 3397 02:38:41,479 --> 02:38:39,060 or if you go to the para cast calm 3398 02:38:43,479 --> 02:38:41,489 you'll learn a lot more rats tiger again 3399 02:38:54,901 --> 02:38:43,489 thanks for joining us on the para cast 3400 02:39:01,331 --> 02:38:58,421 the para cast featuring gene Steinberg 3401 02:39:04,451 --> 02:39:01,341 and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted 3402 02:39:05,470 --> 02:39:04,461 presentation of making the impossible in 3403 02:39:09,541 --> 02:39:05,480 corporator